Connecting two wired routers ,is it worth the hassle?

Connecting two wired routers ,is it worth the hassle?
I want to add a Linksys E1000, to a Chinese made trenda modem/router already connecting a network.
Because I find it easier to set up port forwarding,dyn dns, on Linksys than the present Trenda modem/router ,which is poorly documented & not supported from china

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Ahead of time I would like to thank everyone for their responses and help. I tried to be as clear as possible. I believe I got all the details right. Some things are repetitive and might be a little confusing, but please ask questions for any clarification. Thanks for the help.
Current Routers:
1. Linksys WRT600N ---- Used as primary router. Connected to the 4 ports are 3 PCs and a wireless router. All three PC have static IPs I reservered, also have a static IP reserved for the WGT624 wireless router. DMZ is also enabled and destination is the IP reserved for WGT624.
2. Netgear WGT624 ---- WGT624 is connected to WRT600N through the WAN port on the WGT624 to port number X on the WRT600N . I was using Netgear WGT624 as an access point for a Xbox360 , a couple of macs and ubuntu netbook. This router recently died needs to be replaced.
3. Linksys E3000 ---- Recently purchased to replace the Netgear WGT624 that has died. I want to use this as my new access point. Having trouble setting up the settings for this router. I want the same setup as before.
Detailed Problem
I currently have the WRT600N located in the basement connected to a cable modem through the WAN port. Connected to the 4 ports on the back of WRT600N are 3 PCs and a Wireless router. Most of the settings on the WRT600N I left alone. The only thing I changed was reserving 4 IPs for the 3 PCs and the WGT624 wireless router. I also enabled the DMZ for the destination IP of the WGT624. I also opened a couple of ports.
The Netgear WGT624 that died was located on the upper level third floor. I was using it primarily as an access point. It was connected through the WAN port of the WGT624 to port X on the WRT600N which is located in the basement. Settings on this are a little different. On the WGT624 I disabled the firewall. I left both the Auto DHCP enabled and the DHCP server. WPA was enabled on the WGT624. With these settings on the WGT624 I was able to connect to a xbox 360 and a few macs wirelessly to the internet with no issues . I also noticed that the the internet IP displayed on the status tab on the WGT624 was the IP I had reserved on the WRT600N.
Recently the WGT624 died after years of usage. So I purchased a Linkys E3000. I want to have a similar setup as before with the WGT624. However I have been running into issues. Wirelessly I cannot get access to the internet through the E3000. The E3000 is connected to the WRT600N in the same was as the WGT624. The WAN port of the E3000 is connected to the port number X of WRT600N. On the status tab of the E3000 I seem to be getting a strange Internet IP address. 127.0.0.1. This I think is a loopback address, I am not sure? Same with the subnet mask of 255.0.0.0
So the problem is I want the keep the same setup as before if I can. I don't want to the any computers who connect to the access point to have access to any computers that are connected to the 600N.
I read on another thread I could connect two wireless routers together by connecting port X on the 600N to port X on the E3000. Then changing the internal IP of the second router from 192.168.1.1 to 198.168.1.2 and then disabling the DHCP server.
I really want to keep the same set up as before if posslble. More importantly I want to know why my setup prior, the WRT600N to the WGT624 worked with no problems. Why could I use the WGT624 as an access point and not the E3000? Should I switch the the two routers use the 600N as the access point and E3000 as my main router?
Thanks again.

1. You have chained two routers. The WRT600N uses LAN IP address 192.168.1.1 subnet mask 255.255.255.0. The Netgear is connected with the WAN port to the WRT (thus uses an 192.168.1.* address on the WAN port) and uses 192.168.0.1 by default on the LAN side. Your new E3000, however, uses the Linksys default 192.168.1.1 on the LAN side. If you connect the E3000 to the WRT600 without making any changes it won't work. A router cannot work if WAN and LAN side both use 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0. That's impossible.
2. Thus, the quick and easy setup to get the same as before would be to change the LAN IP address of the E3000 from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.0.1. After that change you can connect the internet port of the E3000 to the WRT and everything works like before.
3. However, in particular because you need port forwarding and you do port forwarding through two routers I would recommend not to run two routers chained. I can't see why it is necessary for you to run two routers and two separated networks. The basic setup and an explaination why a different setup may be better is here. I think in your case it would make things much simpler and you have full connectivity between all your computers. You can set up a roaming wireless network, too. The only problem is that you will "loose" one port on the E3000 because you cannot use the internet port.

Connecting two RV082 routers back to back

I'm looking for instructions on how to setup and connect two RV082 routers together with a crossover cable between their WAN ports.
This is to connect two separate LANS together via an ethernet connection. For staging we are setting everything up with a crossover cable in our shop. Ultimately the crossover cable will be replaced by a microwave link between the two LANS several miles apart. There will be no internet connection.

Switches would have been a good alternative except we needed 8 ethernet ports, so 16 port swirtches would have been required. So the cost is about the same in this situation for 8 port routers.
We have the system working properly now.
This is what we did:
On both routers in "Setup: Advanced Routing" switch from "gateway" to "router" , enable RIP and set RIP versions for transmit and receive to RIPv1.
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and should have default gateway set to 192.168.2.1
Experts may have some comments to make about firewall settings an so forth but this setup does what we want it to do.

Is it Worth the Hassle

I have until 9/8/06 to return my 20" iMac Intel Core Duo I just purchased and have been using for a week. I would be charged a 10% restocking fee...but then I would be able to re-order the newly released 20" iMac OR the 24" iMac Intel Core 2 Duo. My question is....is this worth the hassle. I love the machine. But it is considered older now. Is there that much of a difference that it would be worth me going through this hassle? I am a recent convert from the PC realm. What are your thoughts out there? Should I return and upgrade or stay with what I have? I use the machine for Studio 8 (Mostly Dreamwevaer and Flash..and hopefully Photoshop wehn it comes out...)
Advice wanted.
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Hello,
It depends.
The machine will not become unsupported anytime soon. But, the new machines do provide 64-BIT computing capabilities, and some nice performance improvements.
If it were me, I would probably consider taking the other one back. I don't know if I actually would. But, I might. I've known that the CoreDuo processors were only a temporary product offering since their introduction. Intel was pretty clear that they were only offering them as a short-term solution while they got ready for the Core2Duo. So, I deliberately avoided the CoreDuo knowing that the Core2Duo would soon replace it.
But, at this point, you need to ask yourself whether you really care about the differences enough to go through the motions.
You'll automatically lose at least $200 when you take it back. But, that's much less than you'll lose on a re-sale / private sale if you decide to sell it later.
The additional processing power is not "huge". But, if you plan to run programs that can take advantage of the 64-BIT processors, then you may see a significant difference.
It's really up to you. But, I know I'd seriously consider making the swap. But, I'm the type who wouldn't have purchased the previous model to begin with. So, I don't know how much my opinion is worth there.
I hope this helps.
Let us know if you have other questions.
P.S., if you'd like, go ahead and click the "Helpful" or "Solved" buttons on any of the posts / replies above if you feel they were helpful or adequately answered your question.

Can I get two wireless routers to communicate in the same house?

Hi there,
Here's my problem.
BT (a UK telecoms company) upgraded the household telephone line to fibre optic broadband on Friday and installed their BT Home Hub router and ADSL2+ modem. However, although this is a great upgrade for the household, this has given me a heap of problems.
Previously, my Time Capsule (TC) did everything:
it handled the link to the ADSL modem that routed all the wired and wireless household traffic to the internet (there are three wireless enabled PCs in the household too)
handled the printer via USB from the TC
backed up my Mac data to the TC via wired and wireless and allowed me to transfer files between my Macs.
However, as it stands right now, since the upgrade my MacBook Pro and iPhone will connect to the Internet via the BT Home Hub and that's it.However, I think there is a great opportunity here to isolate my office/study network from the household (a sub network?); but, I have no idea how to set up the TC to accomplish this or whether this is even possible.
I have:
An Apple Time Capsule
A Mac Pro without wireless capability that connects to my TC via ethernet cable
A 13" MacBook Pro that connects to the TC via wireless
A HP printer that connects to the TC via USB cable
Also, I might need to add a Drobo NAS drive via ethernet cable
Both Macs run Lion; the firmware and software for AE/TC are up to date.
So, is there anyway that I can maintain my setup but simply use the TC as a wireless transmitter/receiver to and from the BT Home Hub for Internet traffic but keep everything else within my own network? I should also add that the BT Home Hub ended up being located downstairs and my office/study is upstairs so hard wiring the two isn't an option. The only way I can achieve my needs is to have the two routers communicating wirelessly.
To complicate matters further, I am a complete networking ignoramus - in fact I don't know what networking terminology I should be researching to accomplish this; but, if anyone can provide an answer or point me in the right direction, I'd be really grateful.
Thanks in advance

Update: As I understand it, what I want is to configure my Time Capsule as a wireless bridge. This seems easy to do if your main base station is an Apple device, but I haven't found anything that allows you to configure the Time Capsule as a wireless bridge when the main router is not an Apple device. Any suggestions?

Connecting two EA6500 routers via wireless bridge

Hi, I want to know how can we bridge two EA6500 routers via wireless. I do not want to use the lan cable. Please help.
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This setup is not possible. You can only cascade the routers via wired connection. The access points on these routers are mainly transmitters, they're not receivers so you can't associate them wirelessly. You can, however, get a wireless bridge to do the job. Check out the Dual Band N Entertainment Bridge WET610N and Wireless N Universal Media Connector WES610N.

Connecting two EA2700 routers (wireless) and enable LAN connection on both

Hi all,
I have just bought two EA2700 routers, and I simply cannot perform the setup.
I have the first router connected to the modem, and need the secon router to connect to the first through wireless to extend the range. Secondly, I want to enable LAN connection from the second router to e.g. a computer, PS4 etc.
After having spend a lot of time on searching for at guide, I have given up... I really hope, that you are able to help me on this matter.
Thanks a lot in advance..

Hello Acsadac. Are you setting up the 2nd EA2700 to act as a range extender (wirelessly connected to the 1st EA2700)? If you are, then it's not possible. You can do one of two things, though.
1. LAN to LAN. Configure the 2nd EA2700 as a switch. This will act akin to a range extender (for both wired and wireless connections) but you'll be using a long ethernet cable.
2. LAN to WAN. Configure it as a secondary router. This way, you have 2 separate wireless networks in one connection. Again, you will need a long ethernet cable for this kind of setup.
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Cascading or Connecting a Linksys router to another router

Cant connect two linksys routers to each other.

well the routers we have are the WRT54G and the WRTSL54GS but i m not sure about the second one (it has three antenna) . so we have the WRT54G hooked to the modem and its recieving internet and working with the (wired) main computer. so now we have to go about 1 block away to a neighbors house. and we set up the WRTSL54GS set up 1/3 of the way. now the laptop a block away from the main computer is recieving a signal (3 bars) from the WRTSL54GS. but it can not connect to the internet. what am i doing wrong?
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Both routers are “transmit” devices and were not made to talk to other routers. You would need a wap54g or third-party firmware to make your router an access point.
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Connecting Two Wireless Routers HELP!!!!

I recently bought two WRT150N routers. I currently have one connected to my cable modem. I want to setup the second one in another part of my house. How do I connect the second router to the first router that is already connected? I am VERY new in all this. I read somewhere that I would need an Access Point but this router is supposably an "access point". PLEASE HELP ME!!
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cable moden-->WRT150N )))))))) XX (((((((((WRT150N--->computer.
Message Edited by ddp4lyfe on 03-18-200704:04 PM

How far away is the "other" side of the house from the 1st routers location? You could just probably do this....
WGA54G ---- XBOX
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CALLING ALL EXPERTS - Connected TWO Actiontec Routers to use one as main and second as GUEST

Hello Experts-
I have TWO Actiontec Routers from Fios. I bought the new N one, and I have an old Actiotec that I was previously not using. So here is what I am trying to do...
I'd like to leave Router 1 (the New N router) as my primary router (comes from ONT via cat5 wire NOT Coax) and Set-up the second router off the first to be a guest router. So essentially make it a bridge.
I can't seem to configure it to work correctly.
Can anyone out there give me a step-by-step walkthru on how to configure this second router so I can have them both hooked up, seperate SSID, with one as the Main and the other being the Guest?
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!
Rob
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I'm basically wondering how to change the routers IP address and where the Disable DHCP is within the menus.
THANKS IN ADVANCE!
Rob
To change the IP address of the Local Area network choose:
My Network
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Click edit on the row for "Network (Home/)office"
On the next screen click Settings
On the next screen you can change the LAN (192.168.1.1) address to something different.
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I hope this helps.

Connecting two wireless routers!?

Recently i got an iMac and now i have everything setup, except the internet. My office PC has a comcast netgear router, and i have an old linkskys router, how would i go about creating a wireless bridge? If it helps to solve the problem, heres some more info:
1)The PC is Windows XP media center
2)The iMac is a Snow g3.
3)The PC is the computer with internet from the wall, every other computer uses the wifi
4)I don't know the exact details of the two routers, but if it helps i could find out
Also, do i need to buy any extra cables or cards? I would like to avoid buying new things, but i will if i have to. My ISP is comcast, they told me that as i needed to get something i could find at my local best buy, but i'm not sure of the specifics.
Thanks for the help, the sooner i get this solved the better, and ask me anything if it might help you.

WDS stands for Wireless Distribution System. It is a means for having a central router to which various wireless access points can connect thus eliminating the need for multiple routers. An access point just provides an external wireless transceiver that connects to a computers Ethernet or USB port. In effect it is like a wireless card. The access point does not create networks but can connect to an existing network created by the central router. The router distributes IP addresses to the access point that in turn is used by the connected device.
Some more modern routers handle the configuration transparently so that the user does not get bogged down in configuration setups. You will have to explore what your cable modem/router does. Only the documentation for it will help you. in the documentation you may well find it explains how to do what you want. You will need the documentation for the LinkSys in order to configure it properly. Otherwise you can hire someone locally to set it all up for you.

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I have an Airport Extreme base station connected to a cable modem that gives internet access to both wired and wireless clients. I would like to wirelessly connect this base station to an airport express in a nearby building that also has a wired network so that both wired networks look like one big network. I figured that I would have to use WDS (using the Extreme as the main and the Express as the remote). I've followed all of the directions, but I'm not sure what the setting for Connection Sharing should be on the Express. Technically I am sharing the connection, but isn't the Extreme going to be doing all of the DHCP/NAT/etc.? So my question is, for this configuration what setting should I be using for Connection Sharing on the Extreme: Share a public IP address or Off (Bridge Mode)?

So my question is, for this configuration what setting should I be using for Connection Sharing on the Extreme: Share a public IP address or Off (Bridge Mode)?
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Is paravirtualization worth the hassle?

I've been experimenting with both fully virtualized and paravirtualized guests (OEL 5.4 64-bits with Database 11g and user apps) under VM Server 2.2 to see how I want to make my final live production decisions, and have run into some strange issues with paravirtualization.
I've read that a paravirtualized guest can be faster than a fully-virtualized guest and wanted to test it for myself with my database and apps.
Creating a fully virtualized guest using the install-from-media method is straightforward and seems to give no problems and runs quite well.
Creating a paravirtualized guest the same method has been giving me problems, but I finally got one running.
First of all, it seems like only about one out of three paravirtualized guests created will actually start up and run. I've followed the exact same steps each time, but most times, after completing the Anaconda installer phases all the way to the point where you reboot the guest for the first time, it failed to start with an error something like: VmError: (1, 'Internal error', 'xc_dom_do_gunzip: inflate failed (rc=-3)\n'). I blew away the virtual machine and started over, and after the third attempt, it finally started up, but failed to mount the /boot filesystem, so I dropped into single user mode and ran fsck on /boot. After another restart, I finally was able to get a paravirtualized guest up and running.
I've gone thru this ordeal over a dozen times now creating a paravirtualized guest, and only successfully been able to make three of them start and run. All these numerous failures to start with the gunzip error and having to manually fsck the /boot filesystems has made my confidence level in paravirtualized guests pretty much zero. I doubt if I could put my faith in running one as a production VM now. Even when I get one running, it still gives one boot error message of unable to update the Intel cpu microcode, but I understand what's going on there and that step of the boot process could be deleted. The install process probably should've detected that it was running in a paravirtualized VM and not included that script to begin with.
Anyway, I've got my database and apps installed into a paravirtualized guest now, and have begun testing performance. I did run into the issue that the whole jvm subsystem of the database had to be ripped out and reinstalled under the paravirtualized guest, and also the dbconsole had to be removed and re-installed as well. I'm using tarballs of my database and application filesystems that were built within a fully virtualized guest, and even though they work fine when untarred into another freshly-created fully-virtualized guest without any repairs or modifications, these two issues arose when simply unloading the tarballs into a paravirtualized guest that was otherwise identical to the fully-virtualized guest.
I seem to be getting slightly better query times on the paravirtualized guest, and it might be worth the effort put into making a paravirtualized guest run, but I'm now worried that paravirtualized guests will be flakey and unstable.
Anybody else run into these kinds of issues with paravirtualization?
The fully-virtualized guests seem to be rock-solid and very straightforward to build, configure and run.
Is sticking with fully virtualized guests the safer choice?
My VM Server is a brand new HP Proliant DL370 with dual quad-core 2.9GHz Nehalem-core Xeons and 64GB ram, and does seem to have ample horsepower to get the speed I need with fully-virtualized guests running my database and apps.

I haven't heard of anyone running into the issues you mention with paravirt guests. We have extensively tested it in-house, and have also provided pre-built templates for paravirt database guests. Maybe you could give one of those a try, and see if they're more stable. There is a small chance that a guest OS configuration issue is causing the instability.

Connect two ADSL routers

I was using Linksys ADSL router ( WAG120) as modem router. Recently I bought new Linksys x3000 and installed a modem router in place of WAG120. Now i would like to connect the both routers to get the signals in first floor of my house.
Could you please guide me how to do? ( Step by Step )
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Hello GV,
Would this also be the same if I was connecting a E1500 router (to expand my home network) to an existing X3000 ADSL router? The X3000 is great but unfortunately for me the concrete walls of my villa impede the signal strength to the second floor. I have every room in the villa wired to the X3000. So if I connect the E1500 to the LAN cable in my bedroom on the second floor, which is connected the X3000, would the instructions you provide here be the same? Or do they only apply if both routers are ADSL?

Trying to connect two WRT54GS one has gateway and the other as router... HELP!

Long story short i have 2 WRE54G v2 and still dont get the signal i want. My last ditch effort is picking up a WRT54GS v6 last friday with high gain dB antena to act as an extender. My current WRT54GS is v1 with high gain dB antena. Can i get these routers to talk to one another wirelessly?
Help!!!
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Mort is right. They can not connect together with the linksys firmware. Some third party firmware does allow that but third party firmware will void any warranty and you will not get any support from linksys. I recommend adding a access point to increase the range from your WRT54GS.
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