Considering workflow for Aperture-based library?

Hi all, I'm an amateur photog, mostly sporting events, nature, and family stuff. I am using OSX 10.8.1, FCPX 10.0.5, and Aperture 3.3.2.
Until recently, I have had totally separate storage between stills and video: Photos in an Aperture library, and FCPX events for video. This works, but means that for any given event, I have masters in two places.
I recently learned that Aperture can now house ALL my source media, even my 60p video. I don't know exactly how recent this support is, but it was news to me. I like this potential to keep all originals/masters in one project location. It eases backups, helps my sense of security, and is nice for casual browsing of past events.
So I'm experimenting with consolidation of my video masters into Aperture projects, and creating FCPX events that point to them.
How I think the workflow looks:
Import from camera to Aperture. I store all masters/originals as referenced files using a simple "Year/Month/Project" organization on the drive.It's worth noting that as part of this step I use ClipWrap to losslessly convert AVCHD files to MOVs, although I don't think this is relevent to the overall workflow.
In FCPX, select Import Files...
Use the media browser to open the aperture event and select the video clips.
Uncheck "Copy files to FCP events folder"
The event is created.
Looking in finder, the event's Originals are links, as you would expect. However, interestingly, these links point not to the actual files, but to the Aperture library's "preview" files. These files are tiny MOVs that must only contain some sort of proxy or reference to the actual originals. I'm not familiar with this format or spec. I can play the files, they look like the originals, but they're tiny, under a megabyte in size.
At this point, everything seems to work fine. Editing in FCPX works normally, exporting in Compressor works, and I can even move the referenced masters around in Aperture (to a diferent folder structure for example) and FCPX has no problems with it, because it's pointing to Aperture's proxy files rather than directly to the originals.
So, my questions:
1. Is this sane? In other words, am I missing a problem that I haven't discovered? Does anyone else do this?
2. Because the "Originals" are links to these odd preview files, FCPXs date stamps are way off. I've always carefully kept my masters' datestamps accurate and used the organize by date view for events. I would give that view up if I had to, but it's nice. Any workaround?
3. What the heck are these proxy/preview MOV files? Aside from a hex editor, how can I tell where they point?
Thanks in advance.

Regarding question #2 above, I've experimented a little more, and found a potential problem: Because the time stamp of the files is incorrect, FCPX is unable to reconnect an existing project (that used an event where the files were stamped correctly) to a newly created project sourced from Aperture's native preview sharing, because the timestamps don't match.
This wouldn't be a problem if i were starting fresh, but even then I would be afraid that Aperture might touch those preview files at some point in the future thus breaking the timestamp that FCPX depends on to identify the clips.
As a workaround, if I import the files directly from the drive, rather than through the native preview sharing functionality, it shows the clips with the proper timestamps. This is ok by me.

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I just noticed that I can no longer select photos out of my finder that are located in my Aperture/Iphoto Library. I used to be able to attach photos to my gmail out of the aperture library in the finder and for some reason, no longer can.
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-live happily ever after
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If you're using apps like iPhoto or Aperture then they replace the Finder for managing your photos. The point is that you use the (many) options available via these apps for the things you want and need to do with the Photos.
So, simply, you don't select the photos in the Finder. I'll append the supported ways to do this - which are faster and will yield the current version of your Photos - to the end of this post.
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FIle -> Import -> iPhoto Library? Have you done this already? If so are you trying to move the Masters to Aperture from an iPhoto Library? Or Consolidate them?
-moving forward i need a better workflow so that I import images from camera, and can organize right away into albums rather than creating projects by default and then creating albums so essentially the photos are in 2 different places, even tho they are referenced
You can't. Every photo is in a Project. They’re the basic building blocks of the Library.
You might want to spend a little time with the manual or the video tutorials. I'm not sure you've grasped the app you've purchased.
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There are many, many ways to access your files in iPhoto/ APerture: You can use any Open / Attach / Browse dialogue. On the left there's a Media heading, your pics can be accessed there. Command-Click for selecting multiple pics. This is what you use to attach your shot to your GMail
(Note the above illustration is not a Finder Window. It's the dialogue you get when you go File -> Open)
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There's a similar option in Outlook and many, many other apps. If you use Apple's Mail, Entourage, AOL or Eudora you can email from within iPhoto/ Aperture.
If you use a Cocoa-based Browser such as Safari, you can drag the pics from the iPhoto Window to the Attach window in the browser.
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Gracias photo-enthusiast por tu respuesta pero hay docenas de de usuarios que tienen esta mismo problema, me da la sensación que nos tomas por gagas que no tenemos ni idea de lo que tenemos entre manos.
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