Consolidating FX generators for better render time?

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Wow. OK.
I have used a generator to create a collection of photos-- I used the same genertaor affect about 6 times in a row in end credits
And it seems this has created a render time of an additional 4 hours.
Overnight render time wasnormal-- BEFORE i added seveal of these photo generators in 40 min documentary.
Can anyone advise as to whether consolidating those generators will save on render time?
Also, it would be nice to not have to wait a day each time I want to se a rendered version of my work, in case anyone has created a list of pointers beyond the obvious stuff. I am on a macpro w 16 gigs RAM.
I have many event folders (15 ish). If I consolidate all of these (as advised on youtube tutorials), will their be a big difference in render time?
Event folders are spread out on 3 different drives. Is thgis truely adding to render times... or not? I do not want to risk loss of data or a technical nightmare after 6 mos of work.
I do not want to make any changes that jeoporodize my project. Havn't upgraded to 10.1 yet, as every slight change seems to bring with it more troubleshooting and tutorials to review.
In some disucssions, I am warned about the additional procesing power required by consolidated files. But if my render time is suddenly double after adding therse generators, I have to wonder if consolidating them would be the answer. I do NOT have another 24 hours to get simple answers to questions via test renders. Sometimes after an overnight render, I get a render failure error message, etc.
Thanks.
I am using Event Manager x

I am aware I am pushing this to the edge of it's dsign abilities. I get spinning ball for a few seconds when I do just about anything. Even ther simplest thing. Like chnaging location in timeline. I am on 10.7.5-- partly due to reason relating to my Avid Pro Tools HD recording setup.
The generator that seesm to be a processing hog is Prowall plugin by Pixel Films FX.
and I'll show you the way the plugins look (orange)-- about 6 generators back to back.Each holding about 8 pics. I found that even with consolidating, it still is a very slow render--- I attempted render only the 1 minute portion where the 6 generators happen (after consdolidating!) and after an hr it showed only 8% progress. So that little test would cost me a full work day. Argghhh!
Thanks for any advice you can offer!

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<p>Ps 19:1-6<br />
1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.</p>
<p> 2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.</p>
<p> 3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.</p>
<p> 4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,</p>
<p> 5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.<br />
Stars a STORY-book.<br />
6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.</p>
<p>Ps 19:7-14<br />
7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.</p>
<p> 8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.</p>
<p> 9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.</p>
<p> 10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.</p>
<p> 11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.</p>
<p> 12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.</p>
<p> 13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.</p>
<p> 14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.<br />
KJV</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Corvus.jpg" width="199" height="170" alt="Corvus" />CORVUS (The Crow, or Raven).</p>
<p> Birds of prey devouring him.</p>
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<p>CRATER (The Cup). </p>
<p>The cup of Divine wrath poured out upon him.</p>
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<p>HYDRA (The Serpent). That old Serpent— Devil, destroyed.</p>
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<p>LEO (The Lion). </p>
<p>The Lion of the Tribe of Judah aroused for the rending of the Enemy.</p>
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<p>Chapter IV - TWELFTH -</p>
<p> Messiah's Consummated Triumph      LEO (The Lion). The Lion of the Tribe of Judah aroused for the rending of the Enemy.           </p>
<p>1. HYDRA (The Serpent). That old Serpent— Devil, destroyed.     </p>
<p>2. CRATER (The Cup). The cup of Divine wrath poured out upon him.     </p>
<p>3. CORVUS (The Crow, or Raven). Birds of prey devouring him.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Argo.jpg" width="200" height="199" alt="Argo" />ARGO (The Ship).</p>
<p> The redeemed pilgrims safe at home..</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/UrsaMajor.jpg" width="200" height="150" alt="Ursa Major" />URSA MAJOR (The Great Bear).</p>
<p> The fold and the flock.</p>
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<p>URSA MINOR (The Lesser Bear). </p>
<p>The lesser sheepfold.</p>
<p> The 7,000...? -</p>
<p>This star was called by the Greeks the "Cynosure." Aratus seems to apply this term to the whole of the seven stars of the Lesser Bear. Mr. Robert Brown, Jr., shows that this word . . . transliterates An-nas-sur-ra, and renders it, "as it literally means, high in rising, i.e., in heavenly position.". Is not this the primitve truth of the Revelation? Will not this Lesser Fold be high, yea, the highest in heavenly position?</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Cancer.jpg" width="183" height="200" alt="Cancer" />CANCER (The Crab).</p>
<p> The possession held fast.</p>
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<p>Chapter III ELEVENTH -</p>
<p> Messiah's Redeemed Possessions      </p>
<p>CANCER (The Crab). The possession held fast.          </p>
<p>1. URSA MINOR (The Lesser Bear). </p>
<p>The lesser sheepfold.          7,000 - This star was called by the Greeks the "Cynosure." Aratus seems to apply this term to the whole of the seven stars of the Lesser Bear. Mr. Robert Brown, Jr., shows that this word . . . transliterates An-nas-sur-ra, and renders it, "as it literally means, high in rising, i.e., in heavenly position.". Is not this the primitve truth of the Revelation? Will not this Lesser Fold be high, yea, the highest in heavenly position?</p>
<p> 2. URSA MAJOR (The Great Bear). The fold and the flock.
3. ARGO (The Ship). The redeemed pilgrims safe at home..</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/CanisMinor.jpg" width="170" height="123" alt="CanisMinor" /></p>
<p>CANIS MINOR (The Second Dog), or PROCYON, the exalted Redeemer.</p>
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<div class="tooltipContent" id="sprytooltip46"><img src="images/Constellations/CanisMajor.jpg" width="193" height="228" alt="CanisMajor" />CANIS MAJOR (The Dog), or SIRIUS, the coming glorious Prince of Princes.</div>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Lepus.jpg" width="198" height="196" alt="Lepus" />LEPUS (The Hare), or</p>
<p> THE ENEMY trodden under foot.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Gemini.jpg" width="197" height="228" alt="Gemini" />GEMINI (The Twins). </p>
<p>The twofold nature of the King.</p>
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<p>Chapter II - TENTH - </p>
<p>Messiah's Reign as Prince of Peace      GEMINI (The Twins). The twofold nature of the King.</p>
<p> 1. LEPUS (The Hare), or THE ENEMY trodden under foot.<br />
2. CANIS MAJOR (The Dog), or SIRIUS, the coming glorious Prince of Princes.<br />
3. CANIS MINOR (The Second Dog), or PROCYON, the exalted Redeemer.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Auriga.jpg" width="197" height="289" alt="Auriga" />AURIGA (The Shepherd). </p>
<p>Safety for the Redeemed in the day of that wrath.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Eridanus.jpg" width="198" height="86" alt="Eridanus" />ERIDANUS (The River of the Judge). </p>
<p>Wrath breaking forth for His enemies.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Orion.jpg" width="185" height="262" alt="Orion" /></p>
<p>ORION, </p>
<p>Light breaking forth in the person of the Redeemer.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Taurus.jpg" width="200" height="165" alt="Taurus" />TAURUS (The Bull). </p>
<p>Messiah coming to rule.</p>
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<p>Chapter I - NINTH - </p>
<p>Messiah, The Coming Judge of All the Earth
TAURUS (The Bull).</p>
<p> Messiah coming to rule.           </p>
<p>1. ORION, Light breaking forth in the person of the Redeemer.</p>
<p> 2. ERIDANUS (The River of the Judge). Wrath breaking forth for His enemies.</p>
<p> 3. AURIGA (The Shepherd). Safety for the Redeemed in the day of that wrath.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Perseus.jpg" width="167" height="257" alt="Perseus" /></p>
<p>PERSEUS (The Breaker).</p>
<p> Delivering His redeemed.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Cetus.jpg" width="198" height="93" alt="Cetus" />CETUS (The Sea Monster). </p>
<p>The great enemy bound.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Cassiopeia.jpg" width="128" height="196" alt="Cassiopeia" /></p>
<p>CASSIOPEIA (The Enthroned Woman).</p>
<p> The captive delivered, and preparing for her husband, the Redeemer.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Aries.jpg" width="200" height="165" alt="Aries" />ARIES (The Ram or Lamb). </p>
<p>The Lamb that was slain, prepared for the victory.</p>
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<p>Chapter IV - EIGHTH - </p>
<p>Their Blessings Consummated and Enjoyed      ARIES (The Ram or Lamb).</p>
<p> The Lamb that was slain, prepared for the victory.</p>
<p> 1. CASSIOPEIA (The Enthroned Woman). </p>
<p>The captive delivered, and preparing for her husband, the Redeemer.</p>
<p> 2. CETUS (The Sea Monster).</p>
<p> The great enemy bound.</p>
<p> 3. PERSEUS (The Breaker). </p>
<p>Delivering His redeemed.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Cephus.jpg" width="144" height="164" alt="Cephus" /></p>
<p>CEPHEUS (The King).</p>
<p> Their Redeemer coming to rule.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Andromeda.jpg" width="181" height="189" alt="Andromeda" />ANDROMEDA (The Chained Woman).</p>
<p> The Redeemed in their bondage and affliction.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Pisces.jpg" width="198" height="94" alt="Pisces" />PISCES (The Fishes). </p>
<p>The Redeemed blessed though bound.</p>
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<p> THE BAND—, but binding their great enemy Cetus, the sea monster.</p>
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<p>Chapter III - SEVENTH - </p>
<p>Their Blessings in Abeyance      PISCES</p>
<p> (The Fishes). </p>
<p>The Redeemed blessed though bound.           </p>
<p>1. THE BAND—,</p>
<p> but binding their great enemy Cetus, the sea monster.</p>
<p> 2. ANDROMEDA (The Chained Woman).</p>
<p> The Redeemed in their bondage and affliction.
3. CEPHEUS (The King).</p>
<p> Their Redeemer coming to rule.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Cygnus.jpg" width="198" height="224" alt="Cygnus" />CYGNUS (The Swan). </p>
<p>The Blesser surely returning.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Pegasus.jpg" width="201" height="130" alt="Pegasus" />PEGASUS (The Winged Horse).</p>
<p> The blessings quickly coming.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Aquarius.jpg" width="198" height="109" alt="Aquarius" />AQUARIUS (The Water-Bearer).</p>
<p> The living waters of blessing poured forth for the Redeemed.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/PicisAustralis.jpg" width="198" height="63" alt="Piscis Australis" />PISCIS AUSTRALIS (The Southern Fish).</p>
<p> The blessings bestowed.</p>
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<p>Chapter II - SIXTH -</p>
<p>Their Blessings Ensured      AQUARIUS </p>
<p>(The Water-Bearer). </p>
<p>The living waters of blessing poured forth for the Redeemed.</p>
<p> 1. PISCIS AUSTRALIS (The Southern Fish). The blessings bestowed.     </p>
<p>2. PEGASUS (The Winged Horse). The blessings quickly coming.</p>
<p> 3. CYGNUS (The Swan). The Blesser surely returning.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Trio.jpg" width="198" height="133" alt="Trio" />1. SAGITTA (The Arrow). </p>
<p>The arrow of God sent forth.</p>
<p> 2. AQUILA (The Eagle). </p>
<p>The smitten One falling.</p>
<p> 3. DELPHINUS (The Dolphin). </p>
<p>The dead One rising again.</p>
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<div class="tooltipContent" id="sprytooltip22"><img src="images/Constellations/Capricornus.jpg" width="199" height="145" alt="Capricornus" />CAPRICORNUS (The fish-goat). The goat of Atonement slain for the Redeemed.</div>
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<p>Chapter I - FIFTH -</p>
<p> Their Blessings Procured
CAPRICORNUS (The fish-goat). </p>
<p>The goat of Atonement slain for the Redeemed.
1. SAGITTA (The Arrow).</p>
<p> The arrow of God sent forth.</p>
<p> 2. AQUILA (The Eagle).</p>
<p> The smitten One falling.</p>
<p> 3. DELPHINUS (The Dolphin).</p>
<p> The dead One rising again.</p>
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<div class="tooltipContent" id="sprytooltip20"><img src="images/Constellations/DracoMap.jpg" width="200" height="161" alt="Draco" />DRACO (The Dragon). The Old Serpent— Devil, cast down from heaven.</div>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Ara.jpg" width="143" height="142" alt="Ara" /></p>
<p>ARA (The Altar). Consuming fire prepared for His enemies.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Lyra.jpg" width="139" height="117" alt="Lyra" />. </p>
<p>LYRA (The Harp).</p>
<p> Praise prepared for the Conqueror.</p>
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<div class="tooltipContent" id="sprytooltip17"><img src="images/Constellations/Safittarius.jpg" width="198" height="213" alt="Sagittarius" />SAGITTARIUS (The Archer). The two-natured Conqueror going forth "Conquering and to conquer."</div>
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<p>Chapter IV -</p>
<p> The Redeemer's Triumph
SAGITTARIUS (The Archer). The two-natured Conqueror going forth "Conquering and to conquer."</p>
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1. LYRA (The Harp). Praise prepared for the Conqueror.</p>
<p> 2. ARA (The Altar). Consuming fire prepared for His enemies.    </p>
<p>3. DRACO (The Dragon). The Old Serpent— Devil, cast down from heaven.</p>
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<div class="tooltipContent" id="sprytooltip15"> <img src="images/Constellations/Hercules.jpg" width="198" height="190" alt="Hercules" />HERCULES (The mighty man. A man kneeling on one knee, humbled in the conflict, but holding aloft the tokens of victory, with his foot on the head of the Dragon). The mighty Vanquisher seeming to sink in the conflict.</div>
<div class="tooltipContent" id="sprytooltip14"><img src="images/Constellations/Serpens.jpg" width="199" height="152" alt="Serpens" />SERPENS (The Serpent struggling with the man).</div>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Ophiuchus.jpg" width="199" height="227" alt="Ophiuchus" /></p>
<p>O-PHI-U-CHUS (The man grasping the serpent). The struggle with the enemy.</p>
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<div class="tooltipContent" id="sprytooltip12"><img src="images/Constellations/Scorpio.jpg" width="198" height="186" alt="Scorpio" />SCORPIO (The Scorpion) seeking to wound, but itself trodden under foot.</div>
<div class="tooltipContent" id="sprytooltip11">Chapter III - THIRD - The Redeemer's Conflict SCORPIO (The Scorpion) seeking to wound, but itself trodden under foot.      <br />
1. SERPENS (The Serpent struggling with the man). <br />
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2. O-PHI-U-CHUS (The man grasping the serpent). The struggle with the enemy. <br />
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3. HERCULES (The mighty man. A man kneeling on one knee, humbled in the conflict, but holding aloft the tokens of victory, with his foot on the head of the Dragon). The mighty Vanquisher seeming to sink in the conflict.</div>
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<p>Chapter II - SECOND - The Redeemer's Atoning Work</p>
<p> LIBRA (The Scales). The price deficient balanced by the price which covers. <br />
1. CRUX, The Cross endured. <br />
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2. LUPUS, or VICTIMA, The Victim slain. <br />
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3. CORONA, The Crown bestowed.</p>
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<p>Chapter I -FIRST - The Prophecy of the Promised Seed of the Woman</p>
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VIRGO (The Virgin. A woman bearing a branch in her right hand and an ear of corn in her left). The Promised Seed of the woman. <br />
1. COMA (The Desired. The woman and child). The Desired of all nations. <br />
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2. CENTAURUS (The Centaur with two natures, holding a spear piercing a victim). The despised sin offering. <br />
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3. BOOTES (a man walking bearing a branch called ARCTURUS, meaning the same). He cometh.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/CoronaBorealis.jpg" width="69" height="55" alt="CoronaBorealis" /></p>
<p>CORONA, The Crown bestowed.</p>
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<div class="tooltipContent" id="sprytooltip7"> <img src="images/Constellations/LupusOrTheVictim.jpg" width="197" height="191" alt="Lupus" />LUPUS, or VICTIMA, The Victim slain.</div>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Crux.jpg" width="67" height="100" alt="Crux" /></p>
<p>CRUX, The Cross endured.</p>
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<p>LIBRA (The Scales). The price deficient balanced by the price which covers.</p>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Bootes.jpg" width="162" height="191" alt="Bootes" /></p>
<p>BOOTES (a man walking bearing a branch called ARCTURUS, meaning the same). He cometh!</p>
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<div class="tooltipContent" id="sprytooltip3"><img src="images/Constellations/Centaurus.jpg" width="198" height="123" alt="Centaurus Pic" />Centaurus -(The Centaur with two natures, holding a spear piercing a victim). The despised sin offering.</div>
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<p><img src="images/Constellations/Coma.jpg" width="156" height="161" alt="Coma" /></p>
<p>Coma (The Desired. The woman and child). The Desired of all nations.</p>
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<div class="tooltipContent" id="sprytooltip1"><img src="images/Constellations/Virgo.jpg" width="199" height="364" alt="Virgo Pic" />Virgo VIRGO (The Virgin. A woman bearing a branch in her right hand and an ear of corn in her left). The Promised Seed of the woman.</div>
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Premiere-After Effects Dynamic Link render times vary wildly after minimal composition changes

Here is something strange that happens a lot to me.
I'll have a sequence in Premiere Pro CC 2014 that is entirely or largely an AE comp that I have dynamically linked. I'll use a specific case as an example, but it's happened with various projects.
In this most recent one the visual (but not audio) of my Premiere sequence is one AE dynamically linked comp of about 90 seconds. It's more or less a fancy slide show- some photos with moves, some text, motion blur, masking, maybe a few filters. Fairly basic stuff as far as After Effects goes.
Anyhow, I like to render the sequence in Premiere and then watch it down with music to see if the timing works and make adjustments from there. That's my usual workflow. The strange thing is that when I render, the render times can vary tremendously. With this particular project, one time rendered in about 2 minutes in Premiere. I watched it down and I noticed a spelling error, which I fixed. Just changing one word of text in AE. This, of course, causes the entire linked comp to need to be rendered again in Premiere. This time when I go to render, it took about 20 minutes and it only got about 70% of the way through. A huge difference and all I changed was a couple letters, which shouldn't impact how intensive of a render is needed. What I usually do is cancel the render when it takes that long, then quit Premiere, reopen, and render right away after I open. When I do this, after the application restart, the sequence will then render in the faster approximately 2 minute duration. Almost invariably this is true.
So I end up quitting and restarting Premiere a lot to get the faster render times. But of course that's annoying.
What is going on here?
I know that some might have critiques of the workflow and watching in Premiere and the fact that one letter change forces the entire sequence re-render. I know I could break it up and there are ways around that. But I am not interested in such critiques. My work flow actually is quite efficient when the 2 minute render time happens. Just not when it takes 10x more than that for the same thing. Why are there these huge render time swings?
My guess is that some cache gets filled up, so when the application is just started, and the cache is empty, the render works much better. But I really do not know.
Help please.

There is currently a bug that causes Dynamic Link performance to be poor when the main After Effects application is running. (The underlying issue is that the main After Effects application is sending many more messages during Dynamic Link than it needs to.)
The easy workaround is to quit the main After Effects application when using Premiere Pro to process a dynamically linked After Effects composition.
This bug is fixed in an update due to be released in less than two weeks.

Exporting HD in FCX - massive render times issues

Hello,
Reading the FCP X Help topics etc I think I have a good understanding of import/export criteria. However, I have it from some peers that I could do much better with regard to reducing the massive render times I am experiencing.
Currently the render time for an 8minute clip is 26 hours using Compressor 4 using preset 'HD 1080 Video Sharing (H2.64) - AAC
BACKGROUND:
OS X 10.8.3 (12D78)
17-inch, Late 2008 MacBookPro
2.5 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
FCX 10.0.8
Raw footage is 1920 - 1080 from Canon D7 card - copied to an external HD.
Import settings: both proxy and optimised - both with huge export times as above.
Destination to Movei folder or desktop
The 8 minute sequence includes filters which I know will increase processing time, but by this much is pretty horrendous. (a 'preset' colour correction + sharpen + manual colour correction)
My understanding is that if I import - or later convert all footage - into optimised files - these become ProRes222 files which will give me much faster render and export times. But this does not seem to be happening.
It simply is not efficient or practical to myself or any clients to have 25 - 30 hour export times for 8 minute sequences
My impression is that this computer is simply not up to faster rendering/export processing - but my peers tell me my currrent render/export times are rediculously long.
Can any one advise please.
Thank you.

This is the Final Cut Studio forum.
You need to ask your questions here: Final Cut Pro X

AME render time 2x SLOWER in CS6 than CS4

I just upgrade to CS6. A good portion of my projects are very long continuing professional education videos for streaming on the web. AME4 could render an 8-hour video into baseline, H264 700x290 in about 12 hours. (I know, strange, custom frame size. It's for side-by-side speaker and overhead presentation.) I opened the same CS4 project in CS6. It was resaved for the new version. I also created a new sequence and copied the files over, just to be sure. With EXACTLY the same export settings, render time is about 27 hours!
AME4 was not a 64 bit app, whereas AME6 is. So, my 16 GB of ram should be put to better use, I would think. According to Premiere, ram available for other apps is around 13GB. In task manager performace, processor is at the ceiling but memory use is only 6GB:
System specs are:
Media drive is Western Digital Caviar Black 2 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache
GPU= AMD RADEON HD 6570 DP 1GB PCI EXPRESS 2.0 X16
How can I get AME6 to access more memory? Why in the world would the render speed more than DOUBLE with a newer version?!? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Yes. A CUDA card is on my wishlist, but my company may be tapped out for a while after new ram and an upgrade to CS6.
I did queue this one. I wasn't aware that this would make a difference. I'll try the direct export method next time.
RE: "encoding times have increased with the newer more feature rich versions" Really? So was I just mislead/misinformed that a 64 bit version of this encoder would be faster? Wow, that sucks. But is there no way for AME to access more than 6GB of my ram? I guess the slowness may be the price you pay for stability. My 8-hr project failed two times in AME4. I have 5 hours left of encoding on AME6. It's my last, best hope for being able to deliver this project on time.

CS5 on mac 10.6.4 slows system to a crawl, render times really long

We recently upgraded our towers to 10.6.4 and all productivity has slowed to a snails pace using After Effects. On 10.5 the speed was almost TOO fast on our renders...it was awesome. Now I'm looking to get that speed back.
I have a few very simple comps. 1920 x 1080, 23.98fps, 5 layers (4 QT renders from final cut XDCAM and Animation codec, 1 adjustment layer with levels and hue/saturation for color correction). Approx 40 seconds long each.
I've followed the Adobe advice of turning the multiprocessing on and using the following settings from here http://forums.adobe.com/thread/543440
leave 4gb for other apps, set minimum 3gb per processor = 33min render
setting it back to what WAS screaming fast on 10.5:
leave 3gb for other apps, set minimum 0.75gb per processor = 19min render
turning multiprocessing off = 5min render
same project on 10.5 system with multiprocessing turned ON with the above mentioned settings = 2min render
what is going on here? is there a compatibility problem with CS5/10.6 and Animation codec files? that seems to be the bulk of the slowdown, but still over twice as slow?
additionally, when AE is rendering the rest of the system becomes unusable...every action, even dragging a finder window around, results in beachballs and a 30 - 40 second lag in response. this happens with or without multiprocessing.
I just want to get back to work...any ideas on how i can configure this beast to get back to my former speeds?
8 core mac Pro
OS 10.6.4
12gb RAM
many thanks in advance. i'm willing to send beer for a winning fix.

Good to know, thanks for the update. 10.6.x does manage memory differently, but our testing for performance has shown a slight improvement in the newer OS. So I am guessing that the OS update is not the issue. I just ran another test on a Mac with your configuration and saw a 4% improvement on 10.6.4 over 10.5.8.
It's uncertain what state the system memory was in when you started your tests. That's why I asked for a restart of the computer. The times reported seemed like there was a possibility that the OS was swapping. XDCAM footage places a high demand on system resources. But it's hard to say without being there.
What I was seeing with the initial post was that the two extremes of allocation per background cpu were tried, but not the middle ground. To better see this, launch the Activity Monitor utility or look at the last line of the MP preference. With the 4GB reserved and the 3GB/ bkgnd cpu setting you weren't getting any extra processes spawned for multiprocessing. You can see this in the preferences multiprocessing section as "Actual CPUs that will be used = 0". Then, by setting the pref to .75GB/bkgnd the app launched 8 bkgnd processes, but for the task at hand, I am guessing that they were starved for memory and sometimes failed to render. This was faster than the first test, but still slow. By setting the pref to 1.5GB/bkgnd cpu you were now getting 4 new processes spawned for multiprocessing. The background processes had enough memory to succeed so that made it render faster still.
Now, try setting it to 1GB/bkgnd cpu. That will launch 6 processes which should render faster as long as that is enough memory for the task. If the Memory pref for Reserve RAM for other apps is set back to 3GB, it will allow the spawning of 7 bkgnd processes. If that is a successful balance for this project then it will be the fastest render time. But, our testing shows it will be at the risk of starving the OS for memory, thus the more conservative 4GB recommendation for a 12GB system.
It's a fine line and why we are recommending that one give up a little speed by reserving more memory for other apps. True, there will be less processes spawned for multiprocessing, but there will also be less chance for the OS to start swapping to disk which greatly slows down performance for all tasks. If that compromise is not acceptible, then the alternative is to buy more ram so that all 8 processes can adequately receive enough memory for the job, and yet still maintain adequate reserves for the OS and other apps.

Render times

ok I have a two hour live event that I had to fix up.
I added ONE effect to it in After Effects CS3
added it to the render que using MP2 DV settings....
Im using
Power Mac G5
PowerMac7,3
CPU Type:    PowerPC G5 (3.0)
Number Of CPUs:    2
CPU Speed:    2.5 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU):    512 KB
Memory:    4.5 GB
Bus Speed:    1.25 GHz
its estimating 40 hrs!!
am I doing sotmhing wrong? .. this will put us into 2011 and I will HOPE that it processes correctly.

Andrew
its a simple live event we recorded. not too much movement. just people singing but it was in a theater which was dark. the cameras had a hard time with the spotlights vs ambient light and portions of the performance turned out grainy.
So I bought this plug in called Neat Video for AE. It works great... way better than the standard effect within the application.
I applied the filter, sent it to the render que, it ran for 33hrs 11min and the output is 3seconds long, along with an audio track by the same name which is the full length.
settings were 720 x 480 (sd)
Format Mpeg2 DVD (M2V)
Output says - based on "lossless" - maybe this setting was wrong? I intended to go out to "DVD Studio Pro"
time span was "work area" 1hr 50min 48sec and 28 frames
frame rate was 29.97fps
Secondly, Im wondering now, if it out put the audio already and I have to run the entire thing again, would you run it without audio this time to save render time? but then there is the problem of syncing it up.
Upgrading: I have Final Cut Pro Studio I. As far as upgrading, the best I can do for now is if I could find the upgrade disks for Final Cut Pro Studio I to FCPS II. I have found a full version of Studio II but not the upgrades only (if you know of somewhere I could buy the upgrade disks, let me know).
Studio II includes FCP 6 which will work on my machine but the latest version of Studio (Studio III) has FCP 7 which requires a Mac with an Intel Processor (although some people claim to have FCP 7 running on non-intel machines but its not the recommended settings and may encounter problems.) AND even if Studio III will work on a non-intel machine, it still requires "Snow Leopard" which is the next higher OS (Im using Tiger) THEN, if I change the OS, Im concerned that other programs will not work.
Next time I upgrade I will wait for a small, light, solid state machine that will double as a solid state hard drive for the cameras.
Also the output file is writing to an external 7600rpm hard drive through USB II. I had an 800mbps external but its not working. USB could be slowing it down a bit but 33hrs!?
Any suggestion on output settings?
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