Consolidation in BPC 10

Hi,
does anyone know if in BPC 10 for a consolidation model I have to use a currency and a group type dimension? Or can I still use a currency type dimension only?
Has anyone actually managed to get a consolidation up and running in BPC 10 at all?
Thanks,
Arnold
Edited by: ArnoldWarhonowicz on Feb 2, 2012 9:03 AM - added second question

Hi Arnold,
I'm not sure. I know in the Netweaver version that this distinction is required in version 10.
The EnvironmentShell Consolidation Model has the GROUPS/RPTCURRENCY in two different dimensions.
You can try combining but I would keep them separate.
Thanks,
John

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and BPC7 is NW version i.e it supports BI from Backend and we are getting 7.5 which is of Business objects category.
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