Consume local contracts with extended claissc scenario

Hello,
We are implementing SRM 7 stack 10 with ECS. We are connected to one R3 4.7 backend.
Since local PO will be replicated to the backend, is that possible to consume local contracts with that scenario?
Could there be a problem with the GR if there is no contract in R3?
At the moment we can not manage to consume SRM contracts.
Thanks in advance

Hi ,
There can be various reasons why a local contract is not populated as a source of supply for requirements in extended classic. Ideally, local contract are always porposed as a source of supply unless
1. company codes are not identical.
2. Purchase organization of requirement does not match with any of the released authorized purchase organization.
3. product ID or product category are identical.
4. Delivery Plant mentioned in the requirement should not excluded in the contract and so on.
Check all the points and see if the contract is eligible enough to get popped as a source of supply.
Thanks and regards,
Ranjan

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