Consuming a Bill of Material without SD Order or PP module

Hi SAP Gurus,
I am trying to use the bill of material to treat the following issue.
We would like to consuming a material with bill of material but using movement type 201 or 251.
We do not need the PP module and with can not use SD order.
We just need to enter the quantity of the new material but at the same time down the quantity of 3 materials!
Thank you for your cooperation
Best Regards
Joã

Hi,
Thank you for your response.
I create the Bill Of Material with 7.
I made a test but when i use movement type 501 and 201 the components are not changing the inventory quantity of them?
Have i understand what is your idea??
Best Regards
João Fernandes

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