Consumption indicator
Dear all
ours is planning with final assy(stratagy is 40)
while creating PIR through md61, what is the consumption indicator to be used 1 or 2 or 3
what is the difference
in our case it is taking bydafault it is taking 1 (consume only with customer requirements)
when can we use forecasting in MD61
In addl data what is the use of acct assignment category
q1.Consumption indicator :
*The consumption indicator controls which requirements (customer requirements, for example) are used to consume planned independent requirements
*.This consumption indicator is only dispalyed int he md63 screen - this is displayed as per the configuration set up for the strategy.
q2:account assignment category
*The account assignment category determines which account assignment data (such as cost center, account number and so on) is necessary for the item.
*Let us say if we are working with a MTO configurable material then we will have a sales order as the account assighnment category.
revert back for clarification.
reg
Dsk
Edited by: SatheeshkumarD on May 8, 2008 10:50 AM
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