Contacts sorted by phonetic last name

When I enter a phonetic last name for a contact, that contact is then alphabetized by the phonetic name, not the real name. Does anyone know how to fix this?

I have the same problem, maybe I can provide more details.
When creating a new contact, in "Additional fields" there is for example "Phonectic first name" and "Phonetic last name". This would be used if a name is pronounced differently than how it is written or if a name is difficult to pronounce one could put in an easier name here.
My contacts are sorted by last name. Now for example I enter the following new contact:
First name: Margaret / Last Name: Baumann / Phonetic first Name: Grit
Now, my contacts under "B" look as below. Sorted correctly by last name, Bauman Margaret should be 2nd from the top, but she is last in the list, after Ben... and Ber... (the ... are only for anonymizing purposes)
Bar... M...
Bau... R...
Bau... W...
Ben... B...
Ben... F...
Ber... P...
Baumann Margrit
If I remove the phonetic first name, the contact is shown correctly as 2nd from the top.

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When I try to sort my Contacts by "Last, First", iOS (version 5 on iPhone 4) actually sorts them by Phonetic last name, then phonetic first name. I have populated the Phonetic names of some people with deceptive name spellings so I can voice dial them, but obviously want them to sort by their actual listed spelling—silent letters and all. Is there a way to work around this problem or is this an Apple bug.

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When entering a phonetic spelling in Address Book for a Contact's name that is hard to pronounce, Address Book files that Contact by the phonetic spelling instead of their real name. It is very odd to file Contacts this way; most people look up someone's name by the way it is spelled. It is too difficult to remember letters used to aid pronunciation when looking it up. For example, a common Vietnamese name 'Nguyen' is actually pronounced 'wen'. If I enter 'wen' in the phonetic spelling field, I will have to remember to look up Mr. Nguyen under 'W'.
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In order to make better use of the iPhone 3GS voice control dialing feature, I have add phonetic representations for some of my contacts. However, when I do this I noticed that the address app sorts these contacts by their phonetic spelling. (For instance the name 'Zhou' is pronounced 'Jo', and is sorted under the letter J).
This seems kind of weird default behavior and should at least be configurable. Anyone know some way to do this?
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Sort order changes when adding a phonetic last name?

I have my contacts sorted and displayed by first name. If I add a phonetic last name to a contact, it changes the order of that person to the top of list. Why wouldn't it leave them in the first name alphabetic order?

Ok this is what I'm doing...
My last name is spelled with "liter."
Siri pronounces that like "a 2 liter of soda."
So I've added the phonetic last name field on the contact card to help her pronounce it like "lighter."
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First name: Bill
Last name: Hinderliter
Phonetic last name: Hinderlighter
If I delete the phonetic last name field... It sorts the contact perfectly.
If I add it, the contact is placed on top of all the "B's" in the list.
On a side note... I found another website with a temporary fix to this problem. The person there says to use the nickname field instead of phonetic field when getting Siri to pronounce things.
http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/29210/how-do-i-get-siri-to-pronounce-my -name-correctly
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I just started using the phonetic last name field in Contacts in order to make dialing by voice a little more intuitive. Almost right away I thought my phone was deleting my contacts, they were disappearing.
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Clearly Phil should be up with the J's, but there he is, down in the Y's.
This is going to make finding people much LESS intuitive. It may be easier to go back to mispronouncing their names in order to dial.
Does anyone know how to make it stop doing this? It is almost like a bug... I mean, who sorts a contact list phonetically? Is there a way to report this to Apple?

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