Content Aware Scaling and not enough RAM

I'm on a mac book pro that i bought october 2008 with 4 Gb RAM, with a 2.8 GHz Intel core 2 duo processor. I run content aware scaling on a file make my adjustments, click return and get the warning dialogue: “Could not complete your request because there is not enough memory (RAM).”
In earlier adobe forums people have talked about CAScaling not working well with Bigger tiles plug in activated. as far as I can see I do not even have that plug in. I go to apps>PS CS4 >plug-ins > extentions -- and it's not there -- I see plug ins for AltiVecCore, Enable Async IO, FastCore MMXCore, Multi Processor Support. PPCCore, and scripting support -- but not a Bigger tiles plug in which I still have in my previous copy of CS3 -- but not CS4.
So I'm wondering what's up - how to solve this issue and get back to work -- and just how I should have my PS performance preferences set up for best performance. Anyone out there with a clue?
thanks,
owen

I think I discovered the source of my problem -- doing too many things at once -- I did however , as you suggested, Buko, allot 90% of my RAM to photoshop. My image was a panorama made from seven RAW files shot with my Canon G-10 -- about 15 inches by 63 inches @ 240 ppi. I first stitched them together out of Lightroom -- no problem. But of course the edges were rounded, and I wanted to stretch my sky and foreground to fill the image rectangle without any apparent distortion. I figured CAS was perfect for this... and so it is, once I figured things out.
It is now my intent to stitch the pano every way possible in CS4 and see which one looks best in this particular instance. I may have multiple favorite methodologies, and discover which procedure fits what kind of situation best. My problem, I think, was that in applying the CA scaling transformation, I pulled on all four sides of the image - not just one. But PS and CAS worked just fine if I transformed each edge or side separately. Perhaps it works fine pulling and transforming on all sides if I'm on an 8 core mac pro tower with 16 gigs of RAM -- we'll see -- but for now -- I'll try it separately with each edge @ 100% RAM allowance -- to see if that had anything to do with my problem -- otherwise I'll keep it in the optimum range, and transform one side at a time.
For me this file was a test -- I have a panorama of an image looking over the rooftops of Siena, Italy to print next, made from 17 frames from my 5D mark 2 and that file is 3.3 Gb and took my little laptop over an hour to render as a pano -- but it did-- ( thank you apple -- thank you Intel, thank you Mr Knoll & co...) and will need some stretching to fill the frame -- one side at a time - I suspect.
So merci beaucoup, Buko!
... and thanks Mr Schewe for the the tip, doode -- you know what I'm talking about. ;^) and thanks to the engineers and geniuses at Adobe who make this magic possible.
peace,
oc

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