Control surface with keyboard controller

I'm fairly new to Logic and sequencing (but not Macs) so I'm on a steep learning curve.
I set up Logic with a Yamaha 01x as an interface and control surface. That's working o.k (after some dramas). I play software synths with an Edirol PCR controller keyboard. What I want to do dedicate the 01x to sequencer and mixing duties and assign the keyboard knobs and sliders to soft synth controls, (preferably globally - as in not plug-in by plug-in). When I try to use the learn function on a soft synth it doesn't want to take the assignment. It flashes the name of the keyboard briefly then reverts back to the name of the 01x port. I'm thinking it has something to do with the fact the keyboard is a separate USB midi interface. Whatever it is, I don't know where to find a set-up page for the keyboard or the combination of the keyboard and the 01x. Funny thing is, setting up my keyboard is so easy in MainStage which is part of the same software suite.
I can't find anything in the manual that deals with this sort of hardware controller combination. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I still can't get this working so I am posting some more information in case someone can see a glaring hole in my logic (pun definitely intended).
I have tried setting up controller assignments in both the Logic preferences and by the learn function within the plug-ins. My keyboard is a USB MIDI interface but it is not seen as a control surface by Logic. (As you say, Bee Jay, that's a good thing). It is sending out notes and controller messages on its own discrete port, port 1 (of two), channel 1. The synths in MainStage can see my keyboard and my control surface just fine. I can't see why it should be any different with Logic? Certain controllers always work (pitch bend, mod wheel pan volume and aftertouch). I have not been able to assign any of the other controls of any soft synth. Even if I set the soft synth destination to receive a source I know the keyboard is putting out (I can see it on the transport bar input display), it still doesn't work the control. I've tried deleting all "learned" controllers and starting again - Many times now.
Needless to say, I'm getting to that stage. . .

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