Control without client or middle tier server

Is it possible to remote control/view workstations without having the
client OR a middle tier server set up? We only want to be able to control
our workstations from inside our firewall, so the middle tier server
would not be needed.
Another question, is it also possible to run naldesk the same way to push
applications out to workstations without the client installed (with or
without the middle tier server). Thanks in advance.

Desktop4 can use any of the options.
It really is a bit cumbersome to use at the moment, but drop me a note at
my email address of craig_d_wilson at yahoo dot com in about 2 weeks.
I'm in the process of writing a small front-end program for use in
clientless environments. I should have something going by then.
Normally the Workstation Object gives rights to the local SYSTEM account
when the Novell Client is around to access NetWare shares.
In a Windows Domain Environment, you can use the Windows Domain workstation
object to do the same thing.
Otherwise you may have issues accessing system resources when process are
running in System mode.
FYI, you will 100% need a middle-tier server to get your App Objects.
It will not be needed to RC or transfer files, but you will need at least
one mid-tier server.
Craig Wilson
Novell Product Support Forum Sysop
Master CNE, MCSE, CCNA
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>> Yes to all of your questions.
>>
>> In regards to remote control you have two options.....
>>
>> 1) Use Desktop4.exe with password based remote control to connect to
> the
>> remote PC.
>> 2) Have the remote PC use the option to Request a remote control
> session
>> from the support personnel.
>>
>> Search support.novell.com for desktop4.exe and there should be a couple
> tids
>> that go into detail.
>>
>> In regards to distributing applications.....................
>> 1) Are you in a Domain or Non-Domain environment. This controls what
>> options you have.
>>
>> --
>> Craig Wilson
>> Novell Product Support Forum Sysop
>> Master CNE, MCSE, CCNA
>>
>> http://www.ithowto.com
>>
>> Editor - http://www.ithowto.com
>
> Thanks for the response! We are currently strictly netware with no
> domain, but we were looking at moving towards a domain (we are testing
> both OES cores to act as a PDC to authenticate through edir, both of
> which we got to function correctly :-) So we were just looking at the
> rest of the stuff we may or may not lose by going that route. We
> currently use ZENworks mostly to remote view student workstations,
> control admin machines, and image all the machines. We also occasionaly
> push out small apps or registry changes with Nal, but not that often. Can
> you simply remote view the workstation (without the user knowing) or does
> desktop4.exe only control the machine? I will have to check it out.
> Thanks again

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