Controller Failover Scenarios - 5508

I am putting a design together for a resilient wireless network.
I have 2 main data center sites
Site 1 I will have either:
1 x 5508
1 x 5508 + HA
2 x 5508 in N+1 failover
Site 2 will have just one 5508 controller.
What failover models are available to me?
Can I have an option of N+1 with also a failover to Site 2 if Site 1 is down
From my initial research I think I can can only configure AP's to have a primary and secondary controller configured.
So think the best model is an HA pair in Site 1 and the 5508 in Site 2
What I don't understand yet is the controller to controller failover?
I will be running a guest network out of Site 1 and require the controllers there to be the anchor
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks
Roger

You can have various designs:
Option 1:
You can have AP's on both WLC's to off load traffic
Site 1:
5508 with license
Site 2:
5508 with license
Option 2:
You have AP's on one WLC and the other is backup
Site 1:
5508 with license
Site 2:
5508 HA sku
Option 3:
You run N+1
Site 1:
5508 with license
5508 HA sku N+1 (Secondary)
Site 2:
5508 HA sku N+1 (Tertiary)
Option 4:
You run AP and Client SSO
Site 1:
5508 license
5508 HA sku AP SSO
Site 2:
5508 HA sku N+1
Option 5:
Run both sites with AP SSO
Site 1:
5508 license (Primary)
5508 HA sku AP SSO
Site 2:
5508 license (Secondary)
5508 HA sku AP SSO
Scott

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