Convert from Rollback segment(RBS)  to undotablespace

i have a database 9i and it using rollback segment and i would like to convert to undotablespace. question is there is anyway i can find it out what size undo i need to created base on the database right now i have it. the database is very critical i need to do it in one short and right.
thanks

Hi,
<doc>
As an example, if UNDO_RETENTION is set to 2 hours, and the transaction rate (UPS) is 200 undo blocks for each second, with a 4K block size, the required undo space is computed as follows:
(2 * 3600 * 200 * 4K) = 5.8GBs.
</doc>
I got this piece of information from the link
http://www.lc.leidenuniv.nl/awcourse/oracle/server.920/a96521/undo.htm
HTH
-Regards
Aditi

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    5. Head가 next extent를 찾지 못하면, 새로운 extent를 추가로 할당하고,
    그 extent를 링 안에 포함시킨다.
    위와 같은 원리를 감안할 때, transaction size 뿐만 아니라 transaction
    time도 상당히 중요한 고려 사항이라는 것을 알 수 있다.
    Rollback Segment 크기와 갯수
    Rollback segment size가 충분한지 판단하는 기준은 transaction activity에
    직접적으로 영향을 받는다. 주로 일어나는 transaction activity에 근거하여
    rollback segment size를 결정하여야 하고, 잘 일어나지 않는 특수한 경우의
    큰 transaction이 문제라면 별도의 rollback segment로 관리되어야 한다.
    Transaction 발생 중 Head가 너무 빨리 wrap around 시켜서 tail을 catch하
    지 않도록 하여야 하며, 자주 변경되는 data에 대해 long-running query가
    수행되었을 경우 read-consistency가 유지될 수 있도록 rollback segment
    가 wrap around되지 않아야 한다.
    Rollback segment 갯수를 적당히 잡아야 하는 이유는 process들 간에
    contention을 방지하기 위함이고, V$WAITSTAT, V$ROLLSTAT, V$ROLLNAME
    view를 통해서 contention을 확인할 수 있으며, 조회문은 다음과 같다.
    sqlplus system/manager
    select rn.name, (rs.waits/rs.gets) rbs_header_wait_ratio
    from v$rollstat rs, v$rollname rn
    where rs.usn = rn.usn
    order by 1;
    위의 query에 의해 조회된 rbs_header_wait_ratio 가 0.01 보다 크면,
    rollback segment 갯수를 추가한다.
    Rollback Segment의 크기와 갯수 결정을 위한 테스트
    1. Rollback segment tablespace 생성
    2. 테스트하기 위해 생성할 Rollback segment 갯수 결정
    3. 같은 크기의 extent로 rollback segment 생성
    extent 갯수는 최대 확장 시 10 - 30 개 정도가 되도록 extent 크기를 결정
    4. Rollback segment의 minextents는 2이다.
    5. 테스트할 rollback segment와 system rollback segment만 online 상태로 한다.
    6. Transaction을 수행하고, 필요하면 application을 load한다.
    7. Rollback segment contention을 확인한다.
    8. Rollback segment가 최대 얼마까지 확장하는지 모니터링한다.
    Rollback Segment extent의 크기와 갯수
    Rollback segment가 자라나는 최대 사이즈를 알 수 있는데, 이 수치를
    "minimum coverage size"라 한다. 만약, contention이 발생한다면 rollback
    segment 갯수를 늘려 가면 테스트를 반복한다. 또한, extent 갯수가 10개
    미만이나 30개 이상이 될 필요가 있다면 extent 크기를 늘리거나 줄이면서
    테스트를 반복해 나가면 된다.
    Rollback segment의 extent 크기를 정할 때, 각 extent는 모두 같은 크기로
    생성할 것을 recommend한다.
    Rollback tablespace의 크기는 extent size의 배수로 지정한다.
    최적의 성능을 위한 rollback segment의 minextents는 20 이상이어야 한다.
    Rollback Segment의 minextents를 20 이상으로 하면 좋은 이유?
    Rollback segment는 dynamic하게 allocate되고, 더 이상 필요 없게 되었을 때
    (만약, Optimal parameter가 셋팅되어 있으면) 모두 commit된 extent에
    대해서는 optimal size 만큼만 남기고 release(deallocate)된다.
    Rollback segment가 적은 수의 extent를 가질 수록, space 할당/해제 시
    extent 수가 많을 때보다 큰 사이즈의 space가 할당되고, 해제된다.
    다음과 같은 예를 들어 보자.
    200M 정도의 rollback segment가 있는데, 100M 짜리 2개의 extent로 이루어져
    있다고 가정해보자. 이 rollback segment에 추가로 space를 할당해야 할 일이
    생겼을 때, 모든 rollback segment extent는 같은 크기를 가져야 한다는 점을
    감안할 때, 100M 짜리 extent를 하나 더 할당해야 할 것이다.
    이 결과 직전의 rollback segment 크기에 비하여 50% 만큼의 크기 증가분이
    생겨나게 된 것인데, 실제 필요로 하는 space보다 더 많은 space가 할당되었을
    것이다.
    이와 반대로, 10M 짜리 extent 20개로 구성된 200M 짜리 rollback segment를
    생각해보자.
    여기에 추가로 space를 할당해야 할 일이 생겼을 때, 10M 짜리 extent 하나만
    추가되면 되는 것이다.
    Rollback segment가 20개 또는 그 이상의 extent로 구성되어 있다면 extent가
    하나 더 증가할 경우가 생겼을 때, rollback segment의 전체 크기가 5% 이상은
    늘어나지 않는다는 것이다.
    즉, space의 할당과 해제 작업이 보다 유연하고 쉽게 일어날 수 있다.
    요약하면, rollback segment의 extent 갯수를 20 이상으로 잡으면 space
    할당과 해제가 "보다" 수월해진다.
    실제로 extent 갯수를 20 이상으로 잡았을 때, 처리 속도가 훨씬 빨라진다는
    사실이 많은 테스트 결과 밝혀졌다.
    한가지 확실한 사실은, space를 할당하고 해제하는 작업은 cost가 적게 드는
    작업이 아니라는 사실이다.
    실제로 extent가 할당/해제되는 작업이 일어날 때, performance가 저하되는
    일이 발생한다는 것이다.
    Extent 하나에 대한 cost는 별 문제가 안 된다고 할지라도, rollback segment
    는 끊임없이 space를 할당하고 해제하는 작업을 반복하기 때문에 작은 크기의
    extent를 갖는 것이 cost 측면에서 훨씬 효율적이라는 결론이다.
    Rollback Segment의 Optimal storage parameter와 Shrink
    Optimal은 deallocate 시에 rollback segment 내에 optimal size 만큼의
    extents를 유지하기 위해 사용하는 rollback segment storage parameter이다.
    다음과 같은 명령으로 사용한다.
    alter rollback segment r01 storage (optimal 1m);Optimal size는 storage 절 안에서 기술되어야 한다.
    Optimal size 이상이 되면, 모두 commit된 extent에 대해서는 optimal size
    만큼만 남기고 release된다.
    즉, optimal에서 지정한 크기 만큼만 rollback segment를 유지하겠다는
    뜻이며, 일정한 크기로 늘어났다가 다음번 tx이 해당 rbs를 취할 경우
    optimal size만큼 resize하는 option이다.
    rbs의 가장 최근에 사용된 extent가 다 차서 다른 extent를 요구할 때
    이 optimal size와 rbs size를 비교하게 되며, 만약 rbs size가 더 크다면
    active tx에 관여하지 않는 tail extent에 대하여 deallocation이 이루어진다.
    특정 rollback segment가 너무 큰 space를 차지해서 다른 rollback segment가
    extent를 발생할 수 있는 여유 공간을 부족하게 만들기 때문에 이를 극복하기
    위해서 optimal size를 지정할 필요가 있다.
    즉, optimal parameter를 지정하면 space availability 측면에서 효율적이다.
    다음과 같이 shrink 명령을 수행하는데, size를 지정하지 않으면 optimal
    size 만큼 shrink된다.
    alter rollback segment [rbs_name] shrink to [size];Shrink 명령 수행 후, 바로 줄어들지 않는 경우가 있는데,
    transaction이 있는 경우는 줄어들지 않고, transaction이 종료되면 줄어든다.
    Optimal이 적용되는 시간은 session이 빠져 나가고 약 5~10 분 정도 걸린다.
    적당한 OPTIMAL SIZE?
    => 20 ~ 30 extents 정도가 적당한데, batch job의 성격에 따라 size는 달라
    지며 각 optimal의 합이 datafile의 size를 넘어도 전혀 상관없다.
    Optimal size를 initial, next와 같게 주면 extent가 발생하는 매번 shrink가
    일어나므로 좋지 않다.
    RBS들의 평균 크기를 구하여 이것을 optimal 크기로 지정하여 사용하는 것을
    권한다.
    다음의 query를 이용하여 peak time에 rollback segment들의 평균 크기를 구한다.
    select initial_extent + next_extent * (extents-1) "Rollback_size", extents
    from dba_segments
    where segment_type ='ROLLBACK';
    이 크기의 평균값(bytes)을 rollback segment들의 optimal size로 사용할 수
    있다.
    주의할 사항은 너무 자주 shrink된다거나 optimal 값을 너무 작게 주면
    ora-1555 : snapshot too old error가 발생할 확률이 높아지므로,
    사용하지 않는 것이 좋을 수도 있고, 되도록 큰 값으로 셋팅해야 한다.
    Rollback segment의 optimal size를 확인할 수 있는 view는 V$ROLLSTAT
    이라는 dynamic view로서 OPTSIZE column에서 확인이 가능하다.
    Example
    none
    Reference Documents
    <Note:69464.1>

  • How to recovery rollback segment

    I come into contact with a big problem about system RBS tablespace:
    Because of abnormal shutdown of Oracle database server,when restart oracle server and it crashed,
    following is the detail:
    1. I got some error numbers:
    ORA-27073 skgfcfi: async I/Os remaining to be dequeued for this file
    ORA-01115 IO error reading block from file string (block #2 string)
    ORA-01110 data file string: 'd:\oracle\oradata\swapp\RBS01.DBF'
    2. I startup database with mount mode, then execute sql to get rollback segment detailed info,
    I found that the status of all rollback segment of tablespace RBS is "NEED RECOVERY".
    and I can not bring it offline or online and drop tablespace.that is mean I can not recover it.
    additional, current database running under NOARCHIVELOG mode.
    Would you give me a hand? thanks and best regard.
    null

    Sorry this forum is for Oracle Repository, not database issues. Please contact Oracle SUpport for assistance with recovering your RBS.
    DAvid

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