Converted spot colors is different...

When converted spot colors to cmyk the breakdown is different in CS6
In CS3, Cs4, Cs5, CS5.5 and my pantone spot color book converted to cmyk all match.

PMS 187 Inside my Pantone Book c-0 m-100 y-79 k-20
If you want the older Pantone CMYK simulations, copy the PANTONE solid to process.acb file from and older version of ID and put it in your Presets>Swatch Libraries folder and use that library.
PMS 187 Color Bridge CS6 c-7 m-84 y-56 k-16
Looks like you are in Color Bridge Uncoated—the coated simulation is 7|100|82|26
PMS 187 Inside CS6 c-22.3 m-100 y-88.93 k-14.68
This is a color managed conversion from the solid Lab values to CMYK and is dependant on your document's CMYK profile. If you change your document's CMYK profile you will get a different conversion.

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Dear Andy
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Hi Larry,
I've tried using ...
function convertColors2Process(){
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If they're the same number, they'd better be the same color, right?
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I tried this with the image you posted, so I can describe in detail the steps.
From the image menu choose Duplicate to keep the original for reference.
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