Converting a 1080p 23.976 fps project to 720p60 for broadcast

How do you convert a 23.976 progressive frame rate into a 59.94 progressive frame rate? Is there an after effects pulldown option that is not intended for interlaced 29.97 fps, but for progressive HD formats like 720p60?

Hi Jim,
thanks for the info thats great ! the footage is just vision and wont matter if its slower which is good, i was concerned about any NTSC / PAL issues with the 25p stuff - but would i be correct in saying that as these files are raw and from the Epic / Scarlet that they are not either NTSC or PAL until they are outputted that way in post? Unlike say a a Canon 5D where you assign either NTSC or PAL within the camera?
cheers,
Tim

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I have accidentally made some recordings in 24 fps.
The need for a film which should also be on television - in a 25 fps project.
So the problem is that I have both 24 fps and 25 fps in the same project. it gives strobe flashes. Is there a way I can avoid it?

Personally, I'd say you're massively hosed...
You could try optical flow retiming - available in Motion/Shake/Compressor to generate new clips with the proper frame rate. But that takes a lot of time. Can you post an example of the flashes you're talking about?
Patrick

Why Does Premiere CS6 Output 29.97fps when Encoding to 23.976 fps?

My project is XDCam EX, 23.976 fps. I exported to DVD MPEG and both VLC and Windows Explorer details report 29.97fps file format.
I downloaded the latest updates two days ago. Just wondering why the encoder refuses to leave 23.976fps footage and project alone and convert it to 29.97? Render settings are clearly 23.976fps. Bug?

i didn't read the forum i linked, so yes, i was wrong in the way adobe converts it to 29.97, pulldown vs added frame. the output file will be reported as 29.97, but mediainfo can see the flags and reports it as 23.976 with 2:3 pulldown. when i look at the .m2v file from premiere, frame by frame i can see the two interlaced frames from pulldown. so are those true interlaced frames or does the media player program generate those interlaced frames as a result of the flag telling it to?
Telecine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wiki:
Reverse telecine (a.k.a. inverse telecine (IVTC), reverse pulldown)
Some DVD players, line doublers, and personal video recorders are designed to detect and remove 2:3 pulldown from telecined video sources, thereby reconstructing the original 24 frame/s film frames. This technique is known as “reverse” or “inverse” telecine. Benefits of reverse telecine include high-quality non-interlaced display on compatible display devices and the elimination of redundant data for compression purposes.
my understanding is the interlaced frames are real. it is 29.97fps, with 2 of 5 as interlaced. the reverse pulldown reconstructs a single frame from the two interlaced, dropping the fps to the original 24p. is this not the case with adobe's pulldown?
media player:
Video: MPEG2 Video 720x480 29.97fps 7000kbps [Video]
Audio: PCM 48000Hz stereo 1536kbps [A: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 1536 kb/s]
mediainfo:
Frame rate
: 23.976 fps
Standard
: NTSC
Color space
: YUV
Chroma subsampling
: 4:2:0
Bit depth
: 8 bits
Scan type
: Progressive
Scan order
: 2:3 Pulldown

23.976 fps and exporting to film ...

dear all ...
i have a project that shot on RED with 23.976 fps ... the final out put will be to film ... so what is the right workflow to do so? can i work directly on this frame rate or i should convert to 24 fps? or i just export to DPX with 24 fps settings? if i want to convert 23.976 fps footage to 24 fps, what should i do? just use interpret footage?
thanks for co-operation

> if i want to convert 23.976 fps footage to 24 fps, what should i do? just use interpret footage?
If you interpret a 23.976fps movie as a 24.000fps movie, then it will play 0.1% faster, but the images will all be original frames (as opposed to retiming the movie such that it plays at the same rate but with interpolated image information to fill in the in-between frames).
That is often fine. You'd need to make sure to retime your audio by the same amount.

Sequence w 23.976 fps exporting as h.264 QT with 22.69fps

I exported an h.264 QuickTime from Premiere Pro CC (Mac). The project/sequence was set to 23.976 fps. The export settings for the QuickTime was also set to 23.976 fps. However, the QuickTime that was created had a frame rate of 22.69fps. I have never had an issue like this before.
I had Premiere add the QuickTime to the project on export. That QuickTime file displayed 23.976 fps in the Premiere Pro Project Panel. However, the same QuickTime is showing as 22.69fps on the QuickTime inspector in QuickTime, as well as a third party application.
The odd thing is, after several attempts with the above set up, sometimes the exported QuickTime has the correct frame rate of 23.976 fps and sometimes the exported QuickTime has a frame rate of 22.69fps (incorrect), so it is not consistent.
I have reported this issue to Adobe. The Adobe tech, via a screen sharing session, also noticed this inconsistency first-hand and agreed there was an issue of some kind.
Does anyone have any ideas what could be going on?

any ideas what could be going on?
You're using QuickTime. It's buggy.

No sync with audio for input files AVI MPEG4 23.976 fps

No sync with audio for input files AVI MPEG4 23.976 fps.
If i open in Premiere Pro CC any file AVI MPEG4 23.976 fps (with internal audio MP3 or AC3) i got growing out of sync from start to end of file, even while play it at internal media player of Premiere Pro CC for source file.
Using external audio files AC3 or MP3 not help.
In properties of source file i see 23.97 fps instead of 23.976 fps, and time of internal file is wrong.
If i try Clip > Modify > Interpreter Footage > custom settings to 23.976 time i see right time, but when i click "OK", custom fps saved as 23.98 fps instead of 23.976 fps and time of source goes wrong again.
So i always get bad sync such files in Premiere Pro CC while play or export them.
But in all media players, other editors, and in PluralEyes sync OK with all such files.
If i open M2TS or MP4 (H264 23.976 fps) source file, all OK, it it shows as 23.976 fps, time is right, and sync OK.
So i want to add automatic detection 23.976 fps instead of 23.97 fps for source AVI files with 23.976 fps.
Is it possible?

Yes, i know what XviD and DivX does not edit well in Premiere Pro. And because of that i create this topic "No sync with audio for input files AVI MPEG4 23.976 fps" and was hoping to get help in solving the problem, rather than stating that the problem really is.
XviD and DivX it is MPEG4.
Xvid (formerly "XviD") is a video codec library following the MPEG-4 standard, specifically MPEG-4 Part 2 Advanced Simple Profile (ASP).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvid
I have many old useful materials in XviD and DivX formats, and have no other formats versions for that material.
XviD and DivX are very compact formats to store video at acceptable quality and it is fully compatible with all players and editors for PC except Premiere Pro.
You suggest to convert them to another format (DV) to make compatible with Premiere Pro... It is not what i want.
Let me explaine:
1) Size of files
uploaded AVI XviD 1280x720 file with very good quality have size 1.9Gb (with audio AC3 2.0). If i convert it via VirtualDub from "AVI XviD" to AVI DVCPRO HD 1280x720 (without audio) it have size 35Gb, and quality is worst than at XviD-HD, and also converting take much time.
2) Compatibility with AC3 and MP3 audio inside AVI
AVI DV / AVI DVCPRO not compatible with AC3 and MP3 audio inside, only with PCM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV
AVI XviD and DivX can use AC3, MP3, OGG audio without any problems.
Size of 1Hour 30Min "AC3 Stereo 48kHz 16bit 384Kbps" file is 257Mb
Size of 1Hour 30Min "PCM Stereo 48kHz 16bit" file is 1030Mb
3) I have and use hardware H264 encoder card "Matrox CompressHD" for export my material
http://www.matrox.com/video/en/products/compresshd/specs/
This card works only from Adobe Premiere Pro, so i can not use it from VirtualDub or other editing software.
So i need a full compatibility Adobe Premiere Pro with all popular standard formats of input files.
Here we see:
http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/extend.html#Supportedvideoformats
Supported video formats:
"Adobe Premiere Pro CC leads the industry with incredible, thorough native media support, meaning you can edit virtually all of the major video, image, and audio formats natively without waiting."
As most PC users knows, AVI XviD it is a very popular free video format, and would be very useful if Adobe will make normal compatibility with that format in Premiere Pro.

True 23.976 fps support?

Can anyone confirm that OS 10.7 supports true 24P (23.976)? I have a 2011 Mac mini used as a dedicated HTPC. I know that the Intel 3000 integrated graphics is not capable so there is a hardware limitation. It rounds 23.976 to 24. However the AMD graphics card can properly handle 23.976 fps material. I seen this confirmed with a 2011 mini running Win7 and the AMD graphics. I've not seen it with OS X. Can anyone confirm that Apple supports this with the AMD version minis?

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Add audio from 25 fps video to 23.976 fps

Hello,
I want to add audio file from 25 fps to match with another video with 23.976 fps using Audition. How can i do that ?!
25 fps video settings:
General
Complete name                            : 01.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 170 MiB
Duration                                 : 20mn 28s
Overall bit rate                         : 1 161 Kbps
Writing application                      : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
Writing library                          : VirtualDub build 24415/release
Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : MPEG-4 Visual
Format settings, BVOP                    : 1
Format settings, QPel                    : No
Format settings, GMC                     : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix                  : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode                              : Packed bitstream
Codec ID                                 : DX50
Codec ID/Hint                            : DivX 5
Duration                                 : 20mn 28s
Bit rate                                 : 1 039 Kbps
Width                                    : 640 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.135
Stream size                              : 152 MiB (90%)
Writing library                          : DivX 6.7.0 (UTC 2007-09-20)
Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : MPEG Audio
Format version                           : Version 1
Format profile                           : Layer 3
Mode                                     : Joint stereo
Mode extension                           : MS Stereo
Codec ID                                 : 55
Codec ID/Hint                            : MP3
Duration                                 : 20mn 27s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 112 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : 22ms
Stream size                              : 16.4 MiB (10%)
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General
Complete name                            : new_01.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 557 MiB
Duration                                 : 24mn 7s
Overall bit rate                         : 3 228 Kbps
Writing library                          : VirtualDub build 32842/release
Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                           : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP                    : 2
Format settings, QPel                    : No
Format settings, GMC                     : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix                  : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode                              : Packed bitstream
Codec ID                                 : XVID
Codec ID/Hint                            : XviD
Duration                                 : 24mn 7s
Bit rate                                 : 1 807 Kbps
Width                                    : 1 024 pixels
Height                                   : 768 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 23.976 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.096
Stream size                              : 312 MiB (56%)
Writing library                          : XviD 64
Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings, Endianness              : Little
Format settings, Sign                    : Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 24mn 7s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 411.2 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 244 MiB (44%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration             : 500 ms
Best Regards,

Thanks SteveG,
Ok, What about add the same audio from 25 fps video to 29.97 fps video with settings below:
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Complete name                            : 01.wmv
Format                                   : Windows Media
File size                                : 259 MiB
Duration                                 : 24mn 8s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
Overall bit rate                         : 1 501 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 1 507 Kbps
Encoded date                             : UTC 2007-06-25 14:54:25.750
Writing application                      : TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress Version. 4.0.3.169
Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : VC-1
Format profile                           : MP@ML
Codec ID                                 : WMV3
Codec ID/Info                            : Windows Media Video 9
Codec ID/Hint                            : WMV3
Description of the codec                 : Windows Media Video 9 - Professional
Duration                                 : 24mn 8s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 300 Kbps
Width                                    : 640 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.141
Stream size                              : 224 MiB (87%)
Language                                 : Japanese
Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : WMA
Format version                           : Version 2
Codec ID                                 : 161
Codec ID/Info                            : Windows Media Audio
Description of the codec                 : Windows Media Audio 9.1 - 192 kbps, 48 kHz, stereo 1-pass CBR
Duration                                 : 24mn 8s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 33.1 MiB (13%)
Language                                 : Japanese

I have a video in excellent quality (1280x720 23,976 fps) I burn the dvd in encore cs6 with hd menu and I get pixelated. I've done transcoding but It downgrade to 480 I need urgent help.

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Hi,
first, sorry if my english sucks jajaa i speach spanish, havent practice my english for a while.
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sequence 1280X720, 59,94 fps
48000hz - stereo
the i linked it with dynamik link to after, make some color correction, etc etc etc
i renderd in quicktime animation
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Add to right click menu of timelines an entry for "go to next keyframe" and "go to last keyframe" a la After Effects, we should also be able to assign a kb shortcut to this.
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Allow copy/paste of selection of audio/video effects, not just one at a time. Sure we can copy/paste attributes but since we can also copy/paste effects it would only make sense to allow to copy/paste a selection of effects.
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Is this an online TV show or a conventionally broadcast one? If it is an online show then shooting interlaced is pointless, if it is a conventional broadcast, it is not, as conventional tv still uses interlaced material.
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I'm creating animations with Strata at 1920 x 1080, 60 fps for final output to BluRay.
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You bring up a good point Jon. The the Blu-ray a/v spec does allow for 59.94 fps, but as interlaced footage. I believe that's different than 29.97 interlaced, but I'd be at a loss to explain how so.
So maybe Compressor isn't to blame.

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