Converting from HDV PAL to HDV NTSC???

Just completed a 104 minute HDV PAL docu.
Needs to be an NTSC version for North America.
I de-interlaced the HDV, exported to DVCPRO 50, then conformed it to 23.98 fps with Cinema Tools. And the audio is a quarter tone down in pitch.
Is there a way to do something about this and NOT lose audio quality?
Or. What is the best way to convert PAL to NTSC?
Ben

With your sequence selected, choose file/export/using Compressor. Then for the settings, choose the "Advanced format conversions" and in there go right to NTSC... Don't deinterlace it, you'll just throw away half the resolution.
Jerry

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I've been given a set of PAL DVD's which need to be converted into NTSC. Now, from my understanding, there is no one program available that can do this, so I've had to rip all the video tracks off, convert them to NTSC mp2's and author the DVD from the ground up in DVDSP, build a VIDEO_TS file, then use Toast to compress to a single layer DVD and burn. If anyone knows a program that can convert an entire PAL DVD to NTSC, that would be greatly appreciated.
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I'm not sure if the two problems are related or not, but I just thought it would help.
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2 options.
1) Best option - only available if you have the source material - Convert source material from PAL to NTSC using the Nattress standards converter.
http://www.nattress.com/Products/standardsconversion/standardsconversion.htm
or the JES deinterlacer:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jeschot/home.html
It's also possible to do this in Compressor but not as good quality and longer render times.
2) If you don't have the source footage, you'll need to demux the file in MPeg Streamclip:
http://www.squared5.com/
then transcode the file as described here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1946985&#1946985

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Only change made to ANYTHING on my iMac is: Updated iTunes on Tuesday after I had closed the project from Premiere Pro.
Sounds like a clue.
Apple / Mac updates have a history of creating issues and plenty of evidence supports that statement.
My guess its a QT version issue.

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Concertpix wrote:
...Now render before exporting to QT, I suppose?
You don't really have to. Exporting is kinda the same as rendering. Only thing is that if you do not render before export, FCP does not 'remember' this rendering.
If you think you'll needs parts of the render files later, you might render first.
Others in this forum do deliberately throw away the renders before they export, in order to avoid artifacts. Personally I prefer to see rendered footage before I export. I can see what I am sending to the export-application then. Haven't have any trouble so far.
So. It's up to you.
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Do I just burn to a blank DVD using a standard DVD burner?
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Convert on export, but you will take a quality hit, Premiere has to somehow create 4.97 extra frame every second, this will show on any moving material. There are special hardware convertors that do a better job but these tend to be expensive. You will have to author the dvd using a program like Encore that can be downloaded using Adobe CC (you will need to get Premiere CS6 as this includes the last version of Encore).

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First of all, don't burn an NTSC DVD of a PAL movie project ..it'll appear very jerky.
You can't save a movie which you've started in one format (e.g; PAL) as another (e.g; NTSC).
If you don't fancy starting over, a program called JES Deinterlacer (click on that blue link) can convert a finished PAL movie to NTSC (..and vice versa).
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Hi Ben,
Why do you try to conform to 24 fps if you want to convert PAL (25fps) to NTSC (30fps) ?
You also doesn't need to de-interlaced video, do you? What for ?
Is it for a theatre release or a television ?
Maybe I didn't understand your problem...
I've never done it but I would suggest to try to conform your quicktime file like that in Cinema Tools:
Open file
Conform
29,97
or
30
I think one is for frop frame and the other one is for non-drop but I don't know which one, I am not familiar with NTSC either.
If it's for television you should choose drop frame I think to have the right lenght.
There is also Reverse Telecine that you can use for NTSC but overall, I would suggest that you take a deep look into Cinema Tools help/manual because it's really well done and I'm quite sure you'll fine all your answers in it.
Regards,
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• In Frame Controls> turn them on and set Resize Filter and Rate Conversion to BETTER. (If so set them to BEST, be prepared for a long wait)
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Since you've already edited it, export from fcp (file: export: quicktime movie - NOT quicktime conversion) with current settings. Bring this file into compressor and apply the appropriate dvd preset. Thencustomize the preset, changing the frame rate to 29.97 fps and video format to ntsc in the encoder panel: the pixel dimensions in the geometry panel to 720x480 (not sure if this is necessary, but doublecheck it). Then in the frame controls panel, enable frame controls and change the resize filter to best, and rate conversion to 100% of source and rate conversion to best. This may take a long time to output, so you might want to do a short test by setting an in and out in the compressor preview window.
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I'm using Compressor 2.0.1 to convert a PAL movie to NTSC. I find that the output is extremely Grainy, the blacs are Muddy and the Highlights are colored.
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Thanks and Regards,
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I have produced a DVD with FCP and DVD SP4 in the NTSC format. Now I need to produce the same video in PAL. What is the easiest way to do so??? I have all the original files.
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David Soowal
[email protected]

One way would be to recompress the video using Compressor and the original final edited movie files (The ones you exported from FCP as a Quicktime Movie).
After you select the preset in Compressor, change the Video format to PAL. It probably was originally set to Automatic.
In DVDSP, if you have background assets you made specifically to NTSC sizes, you'd need to re-create them in PAL dimensions if you want to do it right.
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Thank you Shane,
Both are the same frame rates. First thing I checked. Even though I cut my teeth in film, and still shoot as if I have film in the camera, and though I'll use 24fps if I know it's going to end up in a theatre, I have to confess I've often found 29.97 fps smoother ... and it still looks like film to me (despite the noise of the naysayers) as long as the lighting and the use of the lens is cinematic.
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