Converting logo from CMYK to PMS SPOT

Hello everybody was wondering if you could lend a hand.
I have a logo that i wish to conver to pms spot colour as that is what the artwork requirement is, it is currently in CMYK.
I am currently using cs5.
Edit, Edit Colours,Recolour artwork, then i am going to colour books and choosing panatone solid coated.
Now it recolours 80% of the logo but leaves some panels as cmyk. I have come across this on different occasions before.
Is it somthing to do with clipping masks? I hope some Illustrator genius can point me in the right direction.
Cheers

As Monika said, your eps file contains raster images. They were most likely created when the original .ai file was saved as .eps which doesn't support all native .ai features. Recolor Artwork dosn't work with raster images. The best solution is if you have the original .ai file and use it to convert to Pantone colors there.
In case this is not an option you can convert the raster images in your file to grayscale and tell the printer to print the black plate with Pantone Black spot color.
To find the raster images in your .eps file, open the Links panel from the Window Menu and you will see all raster images listed. To isolate them, Shift click on the first and last on the list to highlight all of them and then from the menu of the Links panel choose Go To Link. This will select all raster image objects. Press Shift+Ctrl+Alt+3 to hide all others and now you have only the raster images displayed.
Also, to make it practical reduce the logo to 3 spot colors blue, red and black. You can use Windows > Separation Preview to check the color separations.

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