Converting ntsc to pal using sonyzu1 to sonyfx1e

hi,i have a job ,all tapes in ntsc,i need the final edit to be pal,
does anyone know if i can convert the tapes,playing them on the z-1,connecting through a firewire to a fx1.
or should i do the project with the ntsc settings in fcp and print the final edit to tape then get a conversion job done at a company?
any help appreciated
cheers
simon

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Hi everyone,
After searching the forums, I see that to convert NTSC to PAL for standard def DVD, most recommend using Canopus Procoder software for the MPEG2 encoding, or using a hardware based solution. I don't have the money for those options, so I was hoping you could clear up something for me. Which of these options is best?:
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