Converting real player .rm files to play on 30g Ipod

Hey,
I have numerous real player movie and tv show files which I would love to watch on my new Ipod but I can't even get Itunes to open a .rm file. Can Itunes convert .rm files?..
Do I just have to download a video converter? Anybody know any free ones?
Thanks in advance...
new 30g Ipod   Windows XP  
  Windows XP  
  Windows XP  

Can you please suggest what software we can use for the first stage of conversion from real format to another format before conversion to mp4? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Haven't been able to find anything using google
Thanks in advance.

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