Cool n Quiet and core centre question

just a quick question
if i dont have cool and quiet enabled in the bios and i start core centre it reports my Mhz as 2400 ( i have the XP 64 3700 chip )
but if i enable cool n quiet in the bios and then start core center it reporst the MHz as 1000
and i was just curious why ........ faintly paranoid that my chip isnt running to spec
thanks if you can help and no probs if you cant

so with cool and quiet enabled my chip is running at half its rated spec 1000mhz instead of 2400mhz
would this be why DOOM detected my pc and set all detail to low even though i have an x800 xp 64 3700 and a gig of ram .... DOOM basically underspecced my processor
thats a bit mad as father dougal would say
ok last question ... with cool and quiet off the processor is reporting at 45 degrees so i would imagine under load ( saY a game of doom 3 ) it would hit 50+ .... whats the max safe temp for these chips 65 degrees ???

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Originally posted by thatley
Hi MSI Buddies!
I have an 875p Neo mobo,
I had problems before where my mobo wouldn\'t cold boot. I got a replacement board (with bios 1.20) which works perfectly.
I sucessfully upgraded to bios 1.60 last night and the version of corecentre kept stopping my CPU fan !!!! Arrrrggggghhhhh! Can\'t MSI get anything right (even 6th time round !!!)
I upgraded to 1.0.5.3 version of CoreCentre which fixed the CPU Fan stopping but, the FSB defaults to 203 instead of 200. Everytime i tried to put it back to 200 the PC completely froze !!!! I then ran live update and got the very latest Core Centre which still sets FSB to 203 but i can adjust it without it freezing. But it resets to 203 after a reboot! ANY IDEAS????
The CPU temp stays between 41c and 59c. Is this going to affect my CPU or cause any problems????
Also in the bios, Performance is set to FAST (this was by default).
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PLEASE PLEASE HELP
T Hatley.
Use Corecenter solely for checking speeds/temps.
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The 203 FSB is directly caused by the setting FAST in the bios. Those settings regulate different levels of overclocking. Try setting it to slow and tell me what corecenter says the FSB is then?
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Originally posted by cool'n'quiet
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