Cooler compatibility with Neo2 Platinum

Hello,
Would anyone know if the Thermaltake Mini Typhoon CPU Cooler, CL-P0268, is compatible with MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum motherboard? Isn't it too heavy for that mobo?
Also, would anyone recommend Zalman CNPS 9500 led for the same mobo?
Any other recommendation?
Thank you in advance,
Jose

Go for the Zalman, its much better than the Mini Typhoon. It will cause no problems with your motherboard.
Russell

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Passive chipset cooling on K8N Neo2 Platinum?

Hi,
I would like to hear from anyone with experience from replacing the active MSI HS on a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum with a passive one, Zalman NB47J for example?
- Does the Zalman NB47J fit or is there another HS better suited?
- Are there problems with the VGA card since the AGP slot is so close?
- Heat problems. Would you recommend passive chipset cooling on K8N Neo2 Platinum?
I am not an overclocker but would like my system to be quiet.
Cheers
About to build:
Fortron PSU 350W FSP350-60PN
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
AMD64 Winchester 3000+
Thermalright XP-90
Powercolor 9800 PRO

Baskerville,
No problem mounting the Zalman NB47J
and no heatproblems for me so far ( with some good chassi airflow / ventilation )
The problem is the limited space between the cooler and the Graphic card.
I had to bend a couple of the zalman fins, to be able to mount my 6600GT card.
If not- the Grahpic card components hits the Zalman cooler.
It may work with some other passive cooler that´s lower then the zalman model.

No Power With Neo2 Platinum

I posted this problem earlier, and somehow it double-posted. Now the posts are gone, so I will try again.
I just bought a Neo2 Platinum today, but I cannot get any power to it. I have made sure the power button connection is good; I have replaced the power supply; I have pulled everything out of the motherboard except for the CPU. Still can't get the thing to power on. What can be the problem?

Thanks for the psu details. it would do no harm to post the rest Graphic card drives CPU. Add them to your signature then there there every time you post, saves a lot of re-typing. You can even get them looking better than rollercam's .(RC - It seems shorter now what u altered)
yes your psu is low on the 12v rail & may cause issues down the road. but should at least turm over the fans.
assume
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for now check:-1) CPU Fan cable is connected to motherboard CPUFan1
2) 4pin 12v Cable from PSU is connected to Mobo (clip aligns correctly with mobo)
3) 20pin cradle connecter is aligned & seated properly.
4) case power connectors are properly connected to mobo JFP1 & JFP2 see page 31 of manual.
Checked out ok.
If you have any front panel usb/fireware leads from your case unplug thenm, the connectors may not be compatable & may be shorting.
If still nothing
Then try taking mobo out of case in case there's a short somewhere.
Mount mobo on a piece of cardboard, the tray from the mobo box is ideal, or a wodden table. mount just memory try 1 module only 1st in slot 1, graphics card, plug in 12v 4 pin & 20pin cradle. Connect case power switch.
this option also gives you chance to recheck the risers that your mobo rests on make sure there are no extra ones, should be 9, & check that these align with mobo screw holes.
Also check that the backplate for the mobo back panel clips securely in case. If loose it's been known to make contact with pors/mobo & produce shorts.
Whilst board is out of case you might also check cpu is mounted correctly.

Keyboard compatibility with neo2

I've been reading all the posts about keyboards causing random problems from not booting up to powering off randomly. My new system is on the way but I want to use the keyboard I've had since 1999. It's a Microsoft 104-Key Elite Natural Keyboard with a 6-pin mini-DIN for IBM-PS/2 connector. Given the problems I've been reading about, is there anyone who can say whether on not this is going to work with my system:
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
Antec Performance Plus Case
Antec TruePower 430W (28A on the +12V)
Seagate Barracuda 80G SATA HD
Nvidia Geforce 5700FX video card
LiteOn CD-R, CD-RW IDE
AMD 64 3500+ CPU
Mitsumi FDD
LogiTec cordless click mouse
Onboard sound
Thanks,
JQ

Think it's probably a suck it and see situation. I know that doesn't soundvery positive but look at it this way , if you do have problems when using your old keyboard, it's the 1st thing you'll try swapping. Better than pps who have struggled for days trying to trace fault.
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My new system is on the way
are you building this or is it pre built.
best of luck

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Overclocking issues with Neo2 Platinum

hiya nocturnal
1st in Integrated Peripherals / IDE Function Setup....disable sata1/sata2 dma transfer and enable sata3/sata4 dma transfer...sata 3 is top on left side of board one closest to cpu.
2nd ... Cell Menu / DRAM configuration is where you set memory timing 1T/2T
3rd...Cell Menu / AGP Frequency ..set it to 67
just My 2 cents but why don't you take Everything back to stock (cpu & vid card) , Do the above and see if it will boot. the biggest problem you have (my opinion) is your memory...you do not state if it is pc3200/400 ...if it is go 200 Max Memclock (step 2, 1st option)
set the CAS settings to stock..see if you can boot to windows, then and only then go Play as in see what your sandie will do with that memory..Leave your vid card stock until you get a stable windows enviorment...also if you do shift F2 ..alt F3 it opens up other settings within our bios
I believe you will be upgrading your memory real soon if ya got the o/c bug
Hope this helps
ps...by the way what type of power supply do you have ?

AMD Venice booted with Neo2 Platinum BIOS 1.6

Here is proof:
CBBLE 0513CPBW
http://valid.x86-secret.com ID no: 13770

Sorry, didnt try with BIOS 1.5. I got the 1.6 official from the Korean MSI webpage: http://www.msi-korea.co.kr/program/support/support_dld_detail.php?part=1&serials=66&uid=K8N%20Neo2%20플래티넘&name=소켓%20939%20(AMD%20K8)&chip_id=51 It works fine and is in english. Boots faster but temp probe still all wrong. Apparently my CPU is currently idling @ 15C. Add about 10-12 degrees to temps for a proper readout
It worked for me and many others on this forum but you should still be careful - I don't know if MSI released any revisions of the Neo2 plat.

Memory speed problems with Neo2 Platinum

Hi all -- I'm trying to figure out a problem I'm having getting my memory frequency up to speed. Right now I have two 512MB sticks of Crucial Ballistix PC4000 RAM but I can't get them running any faster than 166Mhz each (or 333 Mhz DDR). I'm using a AMD Athlon 64 3500+ processor and I've got my ratio set to "auto." Is there a memory frequency setting I'm missing? How can I get these sticks up to speed?
Thanks!

dont worry - i did exactly the same! Not sure if was being a bit slow or the manual is written badly but it confused me
Out of curiosity what is core center reporting your cpu temp as? Mine says around 58c but im not sure if its just being reported wrongly ( even though a few people have said this 1.2 bios fixes the temp isssue ).

K8N Neo2 Platinum (Zalman 7700AlCu install - PLEASE HELP!)

Hello,
I know that the Zalman web page lists the 7700 as incompatible with the Neo2 Platinum board. I've also read the past threads here about installation of the Zalman coolers, and I know that some people have made it work. I'm just wondering HOW?
Originally, the guy who built my computer had the 7700 installed using the stock MSI backplate and the shorter brass coloered Zalman "nipples" that normally come with the 7000 coolers (don't know how he got ahold of these - I assume he had extras lying around). This apparently worked temporarily, but eventually the glue on the MSI backplate gave out, and that allowed the entire cooler to come loose, move, and rock back and forth. Since the stock MSI backplate is only glued on, there is nothing holding it in place but the glue if you remove the stock retention mechanism to which it is mounted.
Since the stock backplate was no longer an option, I decided to try the Zalman backplate. Unfortunately, the threads in the brass Zalman 7000 mounting nipples are too large to fit into the holes in the Zalman 7700 backplate. I tried to reinstall using the silver colored Zalman 7700 mounting nipples, but I faced another problem. The 7700 nipples are too tall! The entire cooler is loose when you use them, and it doesn't make good contact with the CPU.
Here is my thought. I have a feeling that if I go back to the (shorter) brass 7000 nipples, and get ahold of a Zalman 7000 backplate (which would obviously have larger holes to fit the brass 7000 nipples), then this just might work perfectly. I guess the only questions I have are:
(1) Will the 7000 backplate fit on the Neo2 Platinum? [I assume it should since the 7000 is listed as compatible with this board on the Zalman web page]
(2) Will Zalman be willing to send me a 7000 backplate at no charge?
(3) Has anyone gotten this to work (i.e. mounting a 7700 cooler to a Neo2 Platinum using 7000 hardware)???
Thanks in advance. Unless someone tells me this proposed installation is doomed to fail, I'll be calling Zalman to request a backplate tomorrow.

Joey,
Zalman told me nothing other than that they would send me a 7000 backplate at no charge. My proposed installation method may not work at all.
I can't tell from your photos if you're using stock Zalman hardware (i.e. mounting nipples) with the metal MSI backplate. Your Asus board installation appears to use springs, which AFAIK, are not supplied with any Zalman HSF. The photos of your MSI installation is too dark to see the mounting nipples.
Use of the MSI backplate with standard Zalman hardware is a recipe for disaster, as explained in my original post. The mounting threads in the metal MSI backplate actually protrude up through the motherboard surface by about 1/4", as can be seen in your photos. Once the glue sticking the backplate to the underside of the motherboard gives out, the backplate will be free to move 1/4" away from the back side of the motherboard, due to the play created by the protruding threads. Thiis will allow the entire Zalman HSF to move with it. The HSF will be able to rock back and forth, losing contact with the CPU surface.
Your installation method (with the springs) may well solve this problem. I can't tell from the photos. Just be sure that your installation does not rely in any way on the fact that there is glue holding the MSI backplate to the motherboard, as that glue will eventually give out.

K8N Neo2 Platinum + Corsair CMX512-3200C2 timings

Is there someone on the boards with Neo2 Platinum and 2 x 512MB Corsair XMS 3200 (CMX512-3200C2) installed?
I've read from Ramguy and Corsair that the SPD timings on the sticks are done according to JEDEC standards and they don't default to the optimum speeds.
What could I squeeze out from these sticks without problems?

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I also have the TWINX1024-3200c2 although on a Neo Platinum. It seems to be very forgiving as I can run at a variety of settings. Have settled on 2.5,3,3,10 (HTT=220) as well. I read a review recommending these timings and have no reason to doubt the info as it works great for me.
what do you have your volts set at?
@2.70V. All setting input manually (no Auto).
Well, i have 2 sticks of that same ram but there not TwinX. Could this be my problem, why i cant overclock it or cold it be that i have on harddrive on SATA connector. My Raid setup is on 3 & 4 and that should be locked.
I know TWINX modules are tested together so there must be a reason they do so (i.e. untested modules may not work). I use the SATA connector (3+4) so that is no problem for me. I have a modest overclock with these modules as the Corsair information I have read on them is that they are not for aggressive overclocking. Why you can't overclock (can't you even increase HTT from 200 to 201?) at all I have no idea. Sorry, I'm certainly no expert in these matters.

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum cooler

is this cpu cooler zalman CNPS7000B-Cu compatible with the k8n neo2 platinum nf3 motherboard? i cant find it anywhere in zalmans compatability list, if it does fit the board, what does fitting it entail? can i install it like a normal hs/f or are there special fitting instructions, if so where can i find these instructions? already tried google

The Zalman cooler is heavy, but its fine as long as the nipples are tightly fastened and the screws that going into the nipples, that hold the cooler in place are tightly fastened..
Also use some artic silver 5 thermal compound and ensure you read the
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm
for instructions on fitting a AMD64 processor, arctic silver recommend a different technique for these types of processor , Im sure theres not much different in the end result, but I like to do things by the manufacturers book as they generall know best.
Good luck

Cool and Quiet problem on K8N Neo2 Platinum v1.3 bios

Hello
I have a problem with the Cool and Quiet feature on the K8N Neo2 Platinum (v1.3 bios).
As soon and I boot the Core Center v1.7.0.0 will instantly overclock my A64 3500+ CPU to 3000+ Mhz. Of course this reboots my PC.
I have Cool and Quiet enabled in the bios, Automatic overclocking disabled in the bios and the Core Center softwares overclocking is (well it was) disabled? How can I install it or get it to stop overclocking the system.
I want to run the Core Center to enable the Cool and Quiet fan controlling stuff.
Thanks

Strange that Corecenter would overclock your cpu to 3ghz. It's known to be unreliable software, but not that unreliable.
Are you running a stock 3500+, or are you overclocking the HTT/FSB beyond 200?
Previous posted was right about cool and quiet software. You don't need corecenter to run it. Just stay away from corecenter and even uninstall it
Cool and quiet software (a device driver that you download from AMD, or that comes pre-installed with XP SP2) simply works as follows. It introduces the notion of several p-states (processor states) that it switches between based on its reading of cpu load. A p-state is a pairing of cpu voltage and cpu multiplier. On my 3200+ newcastle, the p-states are:
1.5V, 11x
1.4V, 10x
1.3V, 9x
1.1V, 5x
Your 3500+ might be similar. Anyway, just run cpu-z instead of corecenter to watch your cpu speed changing on the fly.
As far as fan speeds go: the cool and quiet driver doesn't affect fan speeds. That means to get the "quiet" part of "cool and quiet" you need either
(a) a fan that has a temperature sensor and which automatically changes its speed based on that, or
(b) just use the motherboard BIOS setting to do the same via bios software.
(c) use speedfan to do the same via windows software.
I myself prefer (b) but it depends on the bios accurately reporting temperature, which can vary wildly between bios releases (e.g. newcastles didn't start getting accurate temp reports until bios 1.4).

Need help with k8n neo2 platinum

I've just installed a new k8n neo2 platinum s939 board with a venice core 3200+ cpu the htt is 2000 and multiplier 10x.
I've gone to the core cell menu and set the htt to 4x (seemed to be this at default) and the max mem clock at 166 (more about this in a moment), the fsb will go quite easily up to 250mhz even 255mhz, but when I try 260 Mhz the machine when it reboots shows the initial slash screen but then goes to a blank screen with the cursor flashing in the top left hand corner, I can't even get back into the bios setup without clearing the cmos.
The odd thing is that the adjust cpu vid is showing a voltage of 1.50 and not 1.40 or startup.
Anyway with the fsb at 250mhz the bios screen is showing the Current ddr clock at 208 mhz ( not the max memclock setting of 166) the memory in the motherboard ( a crucial 512meg ddr333 single stick) seems to perform OK according to memtest which shows no errors after 2 cycles.
Any attempt to get to 260mhz fsb appears to fail even by upping the cpu vid to 1.525v unless i adjust the cpu voltage setting which by default is set to (by cpu vid) to +3.3%. Doing this enables me to get to fsb 260mhz but the memtest fails ( even when I set the max memclock to 133, which shows my current ddr speed at 174mhz, well below the 208mhz which appeared stable with the fsb at 250mhz?)
So firstly why are there two cpu voltage settings in the bios when my manual only shows 1 (there is no mention of this cpu vid setting?
How is it that my memory is stable at 208mhz with a fsb of 255mhz but unstable at 174mhz with the fsb set at 260mhz?
Why does the memory clock lock not appear to be working, the memory should be fixed at 166mhz but infact increases with fsb?
I have bios revision 1.5.
Please help as I am not familiar with the bios settings for this nforce 3 chipset, they seem rather odd to me. I'm sure my venice core 3200+ cpu can get beyond 250mhz fsb, I have another pc with a venice core 3000+ cpu which runs quite happily at 270mhz fsb.
PS I've tried reducing the htt to 3x but the same thing happens.

OK further feed back, I can get to over 260mhz fsb but the system is not stable the memory runs OK with mem test but I have problems with prime95.
I had to up the cpu core voltage to 1.53v to get to 260mhz using the cpu voltage setting in the bios and setting a 5% increase. increasing the cpu vid setting to 1.55v did not seem to do anything at all the core voltage was still at 1.43v.
I upped the mem voltage to 2.6v from 2.5 but still could not get the system to be stable, it may be that the memory is holding the system back but I don't want to pay for better memory at the moment. Unless anyone has got any other ideas it looks like I may be forced to settle with 250mhz, well still a 500mhz increase maybe not that bad. I've now to try 3d benchmarking using my radeon 9600xt and 3dmark 03.

Help needed with 915G Neo2 Platinum 2 problems please help doing my head in

System
Case Sonata II 450 watt, MSI 915G Neo2 Platinum, P4 3.4 650 LGA775, 2x512 ddr2 5300 (cruical) Maxtor 200gig sata hd, Sapphire x800, NEC 3540, Sony DVD rom & floppy. My machine runs very stable, 1st problem however on start up I get 3 bleeps can anyone tell me what this means. I have tried looking in the manual but cannot find any reference. The usb dongle that came with the mb is installed & the are 4 green lights on. 2nd problem if I try to load the digi cell software this causes the pc to freeze were I have to switch off at the wall. Thank you for the help.
I have now installed a new mb & I am still getting the 3 beeps. I have ran memtest & the ram passed does anyone have any other idea's.
Thank you for the help.
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please help, i am going to throw myself out of the window.

A few bios problems with my 915p Neo2 platinum board

I'm wondering af anyone here can help me.
I just got a new system and a friend of mine helped set up the bios for me, afterwards he failed to tell me how he had configured the bios (my first big mistake).
Since the buidling of the system there have been 3 short beeps at the beginning of startup. I was told that it was a warning system of some sort and when i looked it up, the informations pointed towards a problem with the RAM.
I ran memtest86 and it found no problems with the RAM, so i contacted the site i bought the parts from and they suggested i reset the bios.
I did so and the beeps remained, but my DVD and DVD-writer drives arent being detected anymore.
I took my PC around to another friends house with only his keyboard and monitor connected. The beeping had stopped before we changed anything. Bringing it back around to my house resulted in the beeping returning.
From this i gathered that the only things different may have been his power source and the peripherals i have attached to the back of the case. (speakers, printer, kb/m, etc)
Going by the manual map, my 2 HDDs are connected as slave/master in IDE port 1 and my two DVD drives are connected to the yellow IDE port that is closest to IDE port 1 (it's either IDE 2 or 3, the map isnt too clear on which is which).
Long story short, can anyone help me in identifying the source of the beeps and their meaning, an optimum setup for my bios and how to get my DVD drives to work.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me. I'm fairly new to building computers and my friends are the type to suddenly become unavailable as soon as a problem arises.
edit: just noticed i missed the spec description part menitoned in the rules.
MSI s775 915P-Neo2-Platinum
Version 1.4 of bios
Pentium 4 540 LGA775 3.2GHz
Corsair VS 1GB DDR2 240 pin RAM
256 MSI PCI-express GF6800GT, latest drivers
600W 3XS-EzCool PPFC
Western digital WDC WD1600JB-00EVA0 (160GB) (master)
Seagate U series 5 HDD ST340823A (40GB) (slave) Both on IDE slot 1
Liteon DVD-ROM (spec unavailable)
MSI 4x DVD-RW +/- (part no: G57-CB00243, this is all i could find on this part form the box)
Sound Blaster Audigy
Windows XP SP2
second attempt at clearing up the garbled mess from above.
Motherboard is making 3 short beeps on startup. Indication of a problem with memory. I've established that it's something external that causing the beeps as the memory has checked out fine with memtest86. Hence i will be checking all the attached devices.
I was guided to reset the bios in an attempt to clear up this problem above. Doing so has resulted in my bios being unable to detect my DVD drives.
My DVD-drives are connected to IDE port 2/3 (manual is unclear on which is which).
Everything was in working order (with the exception of the beeping) before the bios was reset but due to my lack of knowledge/involvement with the original configuration of the bios, i'm at a loss as to how to fix it.
If anyone could recommend me any updates for the bios, or could advise me on how to configure my bios accordingly to the parts i have i would be most appreciative. Also, if osmeone would be abel to shed some light on the beeping issue i would be thankful also.

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The board uses a Via raid controller for the IDE 2 and 3 channels, and you do have that enabled.
Under SATA devices configuration you should select Enhanced instead of compatible. But this should effect your problem.
I see there is a 1.5 bios released that mentions the via controller
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=601&kind=1
Maybe someone with this board will pitch in and help.
I saw this and was wondering if i should install it. It would be the equivelent of resetting the bios again wouldnt it? So it wouldnt be that much of a step back from where i am at the moment and it might be able to sort my IDE problems.

Reboot problem with MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and 250 GB SATA HDD

I'm having a "reboot" problem with my MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum. After turning my system on it will run without any problems, until I reboot. After a reboot it will always hang after the initial windows-bootscreen. The HDD-light will remain on. If, instead of going into Windows XP SP2, I try to enter the BIOS after a reboot (DEL) the system will also hang (blank screen with blinking cursor).
It started doing this after I installed the Maxtor 250 GB SATA disk. Before, I didn't have problems rebooting. If I disconnect the Maxtor drive I can reboot and enter BIOS and Windows each and every time. Reconnecting the Maxtor 250 GB SATA drive will return the reboot problem. I always have to use the power swith to get a working system again. It's not enough to do a hard reset (this has the same effect as rebooting).
Here are the details of my system:
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (BIOS 1.B)
Athlon 64 3200+ (Winchester, 2 Ghz, 512 KB cache, stepping DH-D0)
2 x Kingston KVR400X64C25/512, 512 MB, DDR, PC3200 (2,5-3-3-8 T1)
Asus Radeon AX800 Pro (256 MB)
PSU Antec Sonata 380W
HDD Maxtor 80Gb ATA (6Y080P0, Pri Master)
HDD Seagate 250Gb SATA (ST3200822AS)
HDD Maxtor 250Gb SATA (6V250F0 - jumpered in SATA150 mode, the mobo wouldn't work with the drive in SATA300-mode)
Aopen COM5232/AAH Pro CD-Writer ATA (Sec Master)
BenQ DW1640 DVD-Writer ATA (Sec Slave)
P.S. The NVidia IDE-drivers are NOT installed. System is not overclocked.

Thank you for all the replies. Upgrading to the latest Nvidia IDE-drivers did not fix my problem. Moving to other SATA-ports did not help either. Upgrading the mobo's BIOS is not really an option (I'm using one version before the most recent and there isn't anything in the fixlist of the latest BIOS).
Now I've contacted Maxtor for (hopefully) a new firmware.
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insego please use the SEARCH BUTTON
I did use the search function to find other people with similar problems. The reason I started a topic of my own was because of the text you get while joining:
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Do not hijack another persons topic. If you have a similar problem, start your own thread anyway.
Maybe in retrospect I should first have tried the solutions in other topics.

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