COPA Assessment issue

Hi
I have set up a COPA Assessment (KEU1) using "variable portions" as the tracing factor. However, when I go to execute the assessment (KEU5) I get an error message GA733 "The segment contains no receivers". However, I have set up my receiving characteristics and value field correctly and do no see where there could be a problem.
I have checked OSS Notes 61370 and 180993 but neither seems to resolve this.
Has anyone had this problem before, or know of a resolution?
Many Thanks

There are two more notes 97087 and 128538. You may want to check them as well, provided they apply to your release.

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