COPA -costing based accounting
Hi,
Could you please provide me configuration steps for costing based accounting?
That could be gratefully
Thank you
HI,
Please refer to the Thread posted today for COPA config.
Re: COPA
Basic config steps
1. Maintain Characterstics
IMG- CO-Profitablity Analysis - Structures -Define Operating Concern - Maintain char
2. Maintain Value Fields
3. Define Operating concern (Accouting based or costing based) , copy the standard operating concern settings provided by sAP
4. Set operating concern (KEBC)
5. Assign CO area to Operating concern
6. define profibaility segment char
2. Master Data
2.1 Maintain char values
2.2 Define char hierarchies
2.3Define Char derivation
2.4 Define and assign valuation strategy
2.5Define keys for accessing material cost estimates
2.6 Assign costing keys to any char
2.7 Assign value fields
3 Planning
3.1 Define number ranges for planning data
3.2 Maintain versions
3.3 Assign quantity fields
3.4 Setup planing framework
3.5 Assign char groups to plan cycles
3.6Assign receiver plan versions
3.7Define structure of cost center assessment
4.Flow of actual values
4.1 Define number ranges for actual postings
4.2Maintain value field groups
4.3 Assign value field grops for line item screens
4.4 Activiate transfer of incoming sales order
4.5 transfer of biling doc
4.6 Assign quantity fields
4.7 Maintain PA transfer structure for direct posting FI.MM (KEI2)
4.8 Automatic account assignment (OKB9)
4.9 Define PA transfer structure for variance settlement
4.10 Assign PA transfer structure to Settlement profile
Activate profitability analysis (customizng req gets generated)
All these can be accessed throug SPRO - Controlling - PA
AFter maintain the configuraiton settings, you can develop custom defined COPA reports using Information ssytems.
Hope this helps. Pls assign points as a way to say thanks
Thanks and regards,
RAdhika
Thanks and Regards,
Radhika
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