COPA Realignment in R/3

Hi friends,
I have one doubt in the Realignment activity...
1. After the completion of Realignment , i have checked the TKEBWL table in R/3... It was showing that the DIRTY FLAG is empty for certain COPA datasources....
Why some COPA datasources having DIRTY FLAG as empty???
What is the relation b/w COPA DS and the DIRTY FLAG???
Pls give some solution for this.......

Hi,
After COPA reallignment in the source system delta loads fail in the BW if teh Dirty Flag is not switched on.
By default all the COPA data sources have Dirty Flag remains as empty.In order to ensure that delta records continue to come in spite of the realignment, this flag needs to be set.However this flag can't be set manually. A program needs to be written for this.
For more information you can take help from following link :-
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/c0e0d25d-cb7f-2e10-6abd-de25831a4efb?QuickLink=index&overridelayout=true
Navesh

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Dear BW gurus,
I have a few questions about COPA realignment:
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1) normally the co people
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Hi Michael,
I think you can still maintain instead of reintializing if you can set the 'Flag Dirty' in table TKEBWL
Check the information from sap notes
The extractor looks for a realignment run and will invalidate the delta capability of the datasource order to avoid inconsistent data in BW. The customer has however the possibility to set the 'flag-dirty' in
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Regards
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Hi Jayram,
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Hi Jo ,
1. Is it possible to add a new character in a live COPA table ? => Yes , it is possible to add new characteristics in Live- COPA . You have to regenerate the Operating Concern again . Please do the changes at the time.. when no Sales and FI entries are taking place .. as during the time you are changing.. any billing documents created cannot be released to accounting as COPA will not be active at that moment .
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Hi All,
My client like to change Sales organization structure like Distribution channel,division,sales office,sales group etc. and profit centers in sales orders.
from 01/01/2011 we like to post all open sales order's settlments to new sales organization,distribution channel,division,sales office,sales group and profit centers in COPA.
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Hi,
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Hi All,
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Our Client is planning to upgrade from 4.6C to ECC6.0 and currently No plan for BW (we are on 3.10) upgrade.
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What is Realignment of delta in COPA ? In which Scenario we will go for this kind of delta ?
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Impacts in COPA of changing material and customer master data

Dear experts,
In my company we are considering following scenario:
Currently mySAPerp 6.0 is implemented for all modules for the mother company.
We have developed a new global template where there are significant changes versus the existing system, especially in the SD processes. Material and customer master also change significantly in terms of content in the tables/fields and/or values in the fields.
The idea was to build the template from scratch in a new machine and roll-out all group affiliates, but now we are considering the possibility of making an evolutionary of the current system and try to stretch it to the processes defined in the global template.
The scenario we want to analyze is: Keeping same organizational structure in terms of Company code, CO area and Operating Concern in existing SAP client and make an evolutionary of the existing settings to the global template processes.
The doubts we are having are the following:
Changing material & customer master data: Impact in COPA
Option 1: Material master data and customer master data codes are maintained but content in the tables/fields is changed substantially, both in terms of logical content of specific fields and/or the values in the specific fields. We have following examples of changes.
Case 1: source field in material master changes logical content. E.g. Material master field MVGR1 is currently used for product series (design line) and the content changes to be the Market Segment. The product series will be moved to a classification field. At least 5 other fields are affected by this. How can data in terms of COPA line items be converted so that they are aligned at time of reporting?
Case 2: the source field is not changed so that the logical content of the field remains but the values change, i.e. for the same concept there will be different codifications. How can data in terms of COPA line items be converted so that they are aligned at time of reporting?
Case 3: Characteristics where currently the source material master field is a Z field and the derivation is via table look up and where the Z field changes to a classification field. How can you convert the existing COPA line items to ensure that attributes are aligned? Should new characteristics be created or just change the derivation logic of the characteristic?
Option 2: Material master data and customer data codes are re-created (codification of records is changed), meaning that new material and customer codes will exist and content in tables/fields is changed (as in option 1)
Case: material and customer codes are changed. How can data in terms of COPA line items be converted so that they are aligned at time of reporting?
Iu2019ve never phased a similar scenario and I fear that maintaining operating concern while changing source master data and also SD flows (we have new billing types, item categories, sales doc. Types, order reasons) may lead to inconsistencies and problems in COPA.
I would like to ask you experts if you have come across a similar scenario and if from your experience, it is something feasible to do or there are many risks involved. What can be the impact of this scenario in existing Operating Concern for both option 1 and 2 and what would be the key activities to perform to adapt the existing operating concern. What will be the impact of the needed conversions on P&L reporting?
Sorry for the long story. I hope you can help me out.
Thanks and Regards,
Eric

Hi,
First i think you will need to test if it works for new COPA documents created via billing.
If it works fine then the issue is if you wish to apply these changes to the historical data already posted.
Normally there are transactions like KE4S where you can repost the billing document to COPA
However this may not be viable for bulk postings
You can perform realignment (KEND) but this only works at the PA segment level (table CE4XXXX)
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Waman

Recalculation of Value field in COPA

Hi,
We have a value field in COPA which derives its value from the UoM conversion maintained in Material Master,
we have now realized that incorrect conversion factors were maintianed in some material master records due to which incorrect values are being displayed in COPA reports.
We have corrected the Material Master records, but how can we update the existing COPA values ?
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Sachin Bhutani

Hi ,
You cannot revalue value fields in COPA. You can however derive the characteristics derivation using Realignment functionality. In order to overcome your problem , you may have to resort to differential postings generation through KE21N.
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Venkat.

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We have created a Account based COPA datasource but it is not extracting data in RSA3 even though the underlying tables have data in it.
If the COPA datasource is created using fields only from CE4 (segment ) and not CE1 (line items ) table then it extracts data but tat too after very long time.
If the COPA datasource is created using fields from CE4 (segment ) and CE1 (line items ) table then it does not extarct any records and RSA3 gives a time out error..
Also job scheduled from BW side for extracting data goes on for days but does not fetch any data and neither gives any error.
The COPA tables have huge amount of data and so performance could be a issue. But we have also created the indexes on them. Still it is not helping.
Please suggest a solution to this...
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Gaurav

Hi Gaurav
Check this note 392635 ,,might be usefull
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Symptom
The process of selecting the data source (line item, totals table or summarization level) by the extractor is unclear.
More Terms
Extraction, CO-PA, CE3XXXX, CE1XXXX, CE2XXXX, costing-based, account-based,profitability analysis, reporting, BW reporting, extractor, plug-in, COEP,performance, upload, delta method, full update, CO-PAextractor, read, datasource, summarization level, init, DeltaInit, Delta Init Cause and Prerequisites
At the time of the data request from BW, the extractor determines the data source that should be read. In this case, the data source to be used depends on the update mode (full initialization of the deltamethod or delta update), and on the definition of the DataSources (line item characteristics (except for REC_WAERS FIELD) or calculated key figures) and the existing summarization levels.
Solution
The extractor always tries to select the most favorable source, that is,the one with the lowest dataset. The following restrictions apply:
o Only the 'Full' update mode from summarization levels is
supported during extraction from the account-based profitability
analysis up to and including Release PI2001.1. Therefore, you can
only everload individual periods for a controlling area. You can
also use the delta method as of Release PI2001.2. However, the
delta process is only possible as of Release 4.0. The delta method
must still be initialized from a summarization level. The following
delta updates then read line items. In the InfoPackage, you must
continue to select the controlling area as a mandatory field. You
then no longer need to make a selection on individual periods.
However, the period remains a mandatory field for the selection. If
you do not want this, you can proceed as described in note 546238.
o To enable reading from a summarization level, all characteristics
that are to be extracted with the DataSource must also be contained
in this level (entry * in the KEDV maintenance transaction). In
addition, the summarization level must have status 'ACTIVE' (this
also applies to the search function in the maintenance transaction
for CO-PA data sources, KEB0).
o For DataSources of the costing-based profitability analysis,
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data can only be read from a summarization level if no other
characteristics of the line item were selected (the exception here
is the 'record currency' (REC_WAERS) field, which is always
selected).
o An extraction from the object level, that is, from the combination
of tables CE3XXXX/CE4XXXX ('XXXX' is the name of the result area),
is only performed for full updates if (as with summarization
levels) no line item characteristics were selected. During the
initialization of the delta method this is very difficult to do
because of the requirements for a consistent dataset (see below).
o During initialization of the delta method and subsequent delta
update, the data needs to be read up to a defined time. There are
two possible sources for the initialization of the delta method:
- Summarization levels manage the time of the last update/data
reconstruction. If no line item characteristics were selected
and if a suitable, active summarization level (see above)
exists, the DataSource 'inherits' the time information of the
summarization level. However, time information can only be
'inherited' for the delta method of the old logic (time stamp
administration in the profitability analysis). As of PlugIn
Release PI2004.1 (Release 4.0 and higher), a new logic is
available for the delta process (generic delta). For
DataSources with the new logic (converted DataSources or
DataSources recreated as of Plug-In Release PI2004.1), the line
items that appear between the time stamp of the summarization
level and the current time minus the security delta (usually 30
minutes) are also read after the suitable summarization level
is read. The current time minus the security delta is set as
the time stamp.
- The system reads line items If it cannot read from a
summarization level. Since data can continue to be updated
during the extraction, the object level is not a suitable
source because other updates can be made on profitability
segments that were already updated. The system would have to
recalculate these values by reading of line items, which would
result in a considerable extension of the extraction time.
In the case of delta updates, the system always reads from line
items.
o During extraction from line items, the CE4XXXX object table is read
as an additional table for the initialization of the delta method
and full update so that possible realignments can be taken into
account. In principle, the CE4XXXX object table is not read for
delta updates. If a realignment is performed in the OLTP, no
further delta updates are possible as they would make the data
inconsistent between OLTP and BW. In this case, a new
initialization of the delta method is required.
o When the system reads data from the line items, make sure that the
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indexes from note 210219 for both the CE1XXXX (actual data) and
CE2XXXX (planning data) line item tables have been created.
Otherwise, you may encounter long-running selections. For
archiving, appropriate indexes are delivered in the dictionary as
of Release 4.5. These indexes are delivered with the SAP standard
system but still have to be created on the database.

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