Copy Channel strips between songs

Hi I am working on a mix but its spread over two songs, I want to copy the drums and bass channel strips plugins etc from one song to another. I know if I go to audio config I can copy paste the hole song settings but I only want the first 16 tracks with plugins and fader levels. I tried a simple copy paste on the channels from the enviroment but it didn't seem to work.......

Unfortunately, you have discovered a missing feature that Logic desperately needs, if it is to continue using the word "Pro" in it's title.
As you know, you can copy from the audio configuration window, but that will replace all other track assignments, plug-ins etc... not the intended result.
You can place those 16 tracks on their own environment layer, and import that layer into the second song, but that will only copy volume and panning assignments, not plug-ins, or output assignments.
It's my opinion, that in this particular situation, this is probably the best approach:
Save channel strip settings for the first 16 tracks. Open the second song, and load each tracks channel strip. It's not hard to do... just requires a lot of mouse clicks...
As for volume and pan settings, my advice would be to open both songs at the same time. arrange the first 16 tracks of song 1's mixer at the top of your screen, and the first 16 tracks of song 2 at the bottom of your screen.
Simply set all the volumes and pans on song two manually, by looking at what's in song 1.
One trick I would suggest: Before trying to open both songs at once, disable the audio driver from the Audio Hardware & Drivers window. This will save many minutes of the spinning beachball, while Logic tries to load all plug-ins, AI's, etc, from the second song. Since you're only opening them for a visual cue, you won't need the audio driver active for this task. Trust me, doing this will make it go very fast, and save you lots of aggravation, while switching between songs, and resizing the mixer windows to see what's going on.
Don't forget to turn the audio driver back on, when you're ready to actually hear anything.
The good news is, you'll probably have all 16 tracks set-up properly, faster than the time it took me to type all of this!
Hope that helps...

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