Copy Object group

Hi
Forms Builder (9.0.4.2.0) DB - 10gR2
I just want to copy one object group from one form to another.
Only thing source object group also sub classed. I tried copy/paste and drag and drop
It didn't work.
Then I tried copy from the original form which is not sub classed from any. Still didn't work.
What's the concept behind.
rgds
shabar

Hi Magoo
When check the subclass information of object group
there could see
Object
Object Name - Obj1
Module - Mod1
But I need the same object group (OG1) in form1 to be placed in the Form2.
When I check the Mod1 it's a another Form where it has a object group (Obj1) which is not sub class to any
How could this be done
rgds
shabar

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