Copy process Chain with Meta chain
Hi experts,
how to copy the process chain with Meta chain, since the process chain which I planing to copy it hold meta chain and also local chain, I coping for change the technical name for the PC, is it possible to copy meta chain and local chain along with PC?
and plz breif me about meta chain and local chain why we have to use them and where we have to use them?
plz explain with scenario.
Thanks,
Hi,
Once after the copy of the chains you need to change the start variant with the new one as the same start process can not be used in two process chains at the same time.
So Once after changing the start process for your MC and LC then you are good to go ahead to trigger the same.
If you trigger the MC then it will take care of trigerring the LC automatically.
In terms of changes in the process chain, you can get the last changed details in the log view but you can track the timestamp of changes from the process chain tables like (RSPC* and then press F4). But you can not track which process has been changed in this.
Thanks
Murali
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Include Local Chains with Meta Chain
HI folks,
How to Include Local Chains with Meta Chain. Can I know the step by step with clear information?
If it is possiable send step by step creation screen shots.
Thanks & regards,
venkat vanarasiHi Venkat,
Goto RSPC->Double click the process chain that u want to include local chain -> click the process types->Under General serverices u can see->Local Process Chain -> Select the process chain that u want to include ->include it, activate and schedule.
Hope it will work..!!
Assign points please..............
Best Regards,
SG -
I have one meta chain.that meta chain have 5 local chains 2 local is failed
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i have one meta chain.that meta chain have 5 local chains 2 local is failed in the mddle. 3,4,5 chains were went successful.i knoe the solution hoe to correct. i want to execute rest of process of the second chain only. i dont want to 3rd , 4th and Fifth. i can not do Manully for evry process chain in the second chain because second local chain is very big chain. i can not do repeat also .suppose if i go for repeat again 3rd , 4th ,5 thsteps will be execut.
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Right click on the green block, from where the next block is not triggering. Take the variant and instance value.
Goto table RSPCPROCESSLOG and give the variant and instance value as input. Check the state field value. It should be G (i.e. successfully completed) then only next block will be triggered.
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For More information:
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2006/02/26/restarting-processchains
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Hi There,
We have a meta chain, in which there are several local chains one for each process area. Due to a transport I have to unschedule one local chain and let the other local chains run. Please let me know what is best way to do it?
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You can maintain the start variant of the local chain and switch it to Direct Scheduling. You can leave it in the "Master" chain and let that one run normally, however, your local chain will fail and no following chain will be triggered. So this approach could only be used if your local chain is a dead-end.
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regards
Jacob -
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Hi Experts,
Could any one pl help me how to include 3 local chains in to a meta chain.
first i am creating local chains
Thanks in Advance
Nitya
Please check the forum before posting
Edited by: Vikram Srivastava on Sep 24, 2010 4:43 PMHi Nitya
Nothing much to explain about it but any ways
First create separate chains for all 3 local chains and create a meta chain include all this 3 in that
Meta Chain steps:
If the chains are dependents on each other then create as below
Start process -> local chain1>local chain2-->local chain3.
If the chains are independent loads then
Start process ---> local chain 1,2,3 place it in parllel.
Precaution: ensure that you local chains start process should place the maintain process radio button set to "Start using meta chain or API".
Please find the help link for the same : [Creating process chains and schedules|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/a4/1be541f321c717e10000000a155106/frameset.htm]
Hope its clear a little..!
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K M R
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H. Nitya wrote:
> Hi Experts,
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> Could any one pl help me how to include 3 local chains in to a meta chain.
> first i am creating local chains
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Hello,
I want to make a kind of "snapshot" of my running BPEL instance.
It should be possible to change some variable values of the snapshot
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Thanks in advance.
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Can any one explain me what exactly is the difference among the process chains?
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Transport collection for meta chain
Hi all,
I had a meta chain which carries 4 master chains.
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collected the meta chain and transported to test system but the changes are not reflecting in Test system.
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regards
sandyHi,
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Regards,
Arminder Singh -
Hi Folks,
I have one meta chain which has master data loads local chains and then has an atrib change run and then a Transaction data meta chain in it.
The transaction data meta chain has many local chains. After the first two local chains, theres an AND condition and then the next set of local chains are scheduled.
Problem is that after the AND, the next set of local chains are not triggered. I have included preceeding event based triggers as scheduling paramters.
Why does the next set of local chains stop? Is it normal to have meta chains inside meta chains?? And have u come across a unknown job that gets created named BI_PROCESS_TRIGGER in case of event based triggering??
Thanks in advance
Regards
PrakashHi Prakash,
Meta chain in a Meta chain will work most of the times. Very rarely does it give problems. When ever we have a similar problem as you have described. We go into each meta chain and trigger them manually for that day. Once the chains are all run. We Deschedule the Entire Main chain, check if there are any released jobs for each Meta Chain/process steps, delete these released jobs. Then we activate and schedule the Main chain, this resolves our problem and the chains runs without issues the following days.
Regards,
Praveen. -
Dear Gurus,
Is there any kind of "How to.." document of Meta Chains which can guide me through.
Thanks in anticipation.
Brgds, Dhruv
Please search the forum before posting the thread
Edited by: Pravender on Apr 12, 2011 7:05 PMHi
Process Chain: A process chain is used to trigger different process (Info Package,Attribute change run,compress request.,activate request(ODS) in a sequence according to requirment
Meta Chain: In a similar way like process chain but used to trigger different process chains in a sequence according to requirment
For more details please see the threads, you will get all the info
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Hello All,
I have scheduled the process chains through background jobs. I have copied the meta chain and created seven background jobs that is from Monday till sunday. The problem is most frequently the job gets cancelled with the message
Process CHAIN, variant PAA1_GS001 is not scheduled waiting for event RSPROCESS 44NRPDWZ7CQUJ92ATDTY6368H.
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If anyone has faced this issue before kindly let me know.
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I have a COPY planning function which has multiple FROM and TO options like (From:Fiscal Year To Fiscal Year, From Version TO Version). In the layout they select the options for which they want to COPY and execute the function.
How can I replicate the same approach in a process chain with the varaints, how can i create the FROM and TO variables in the process chain.
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Rashmi.Hi.
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Failed meta chain maintenance in Process chain in SAP BI
Hi all,
I have a Process chain having the meta chain of master data population.When successful , proceeds with the further steps in process chain. It has been scheduled in midnight.
After monitoring the PC , found the error in the master meta chain , so i repeat the step.
Here , after success of meta chain all steps gets running down the line till the end step in PC.
I do not want to re-run the steps below meta chain after repeat step.
Any Ideas to ignore the re-run ??Hi,
If your Process is still running(Yellow color status) then right click it and go to Schduled Jobs. On this you will go to Job Overview there you can press STOP.
Else go to the SM37, there you can go and select your process using your process ID and STOP it.
And if you want to kill the complete process chain then go for Remove from Schedule.
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1)SM37 -->Kill Job
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3)RSPC>Job Log>Make the process RED forecefully.
4)RSPC>Process chain> main Menu"Remove from Scheduling" OR
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give RFC BW system name(technical) and process chain name(technical)
Steps 1 -3 stops the chain running in process
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How to Develop Meta Chain (Process Chains)
Hi Experts
How can i create a META CHAIN (Meta Process Chain)
How can i insert a different process chain to into meta chain.
In the process types i can't find any type with process chain
ThanksHi
Thanks for the update.
I can't able to find Process Type Local Process Chain
Please update me in detail
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At what scenario we go for copy process chain??
At what scenario we go for copy process chain??
Hi,
Letu2019s say you are doing regular monitoring of a process chain. One fine day this process chain gets failed due to some reason on one of steps. And say there are 10 more steps still to be executed.
You fixed the error by performing some manual activity which was actually next steps of process chain where it failed.
Now you can not do repeat/repair in process chain because you have already performed them but you want remaining steps to be executed automatically not manually.
What you can do is copy chain with only required steps in it remove remaining steps.
Regards,
Akshay
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