Copy Protection (CSS)

I am sending a project out to a replication plant. I want to protect my dvd with css, the plant wants to charge me $250 to do this. I burned a master with css when I had a imac (power pc), now that I upgraded to a macpro (intel) I cant get the css on my master disc. Can someone help me please !!

Welcome to the boards
As you know CSS will only work on replicated discs.
Do make a CSS you would need to send DDP files not a DVD with VIDEO_TS AUDIO_TS folders (if that is what you are doing)
As to the plant charging an extra $250, sounds steep. (Do they mean re-authoring the DVD so it does have CSS?) Usually CSS is in the price of the replication itself - they may be handling it differently
Lastly CSS will stop casual users but the bad guys get around it quicker than it took me to write this sentence.
Lastly, are you using the Universal Binary Version of DVD SP on the MacIntel? If not that could be the problem.

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DVD Copy Protection without CSS

Is it possible for DVDSP4 to put any copy protection on a burned disc without using CSS?
What happens if you enable copyright management, set it for no copy permitted, but don't click the CSS box. Does that do anything at all?
For example, a client calls and needs 10 copies of a disc and they want it copy protected. Is there a way to do this on my MacPro, as opposed to enabling CSS and sending it off to be replicated?
Thanks,
Chris

I am wondering why DVDSP allows you to turn copy management on, and select "no copying permitted" and doesn't require you to turn on CSS. If CSS was the only way to copy protect, I would think there wouldn't be on/off toggle box for it. Once you selected "no copying permitted" CSS would automatically be enabled.
When I burn the DVD, in the log, it says something like my device "cannot work with copy generation management."
This makes me believe, that with the right burner, although it may be basic, there is a way to copy protect a burned DVD without using CSS.
Maybe I'm dreaming.

Copy Protection without DLT - Link does not work

I'm trying to find out how I can protect DVDS with Encore. Or if anyone knows of reasonably priced software to do this. I see there is a link to something called, Protection without DLT, but the link does not work....
Help!
Jessica

CSS keys are only licensed to replicators, player manufacturers, etc. so it is highly unlikely that there will ever be a free solution for creating encrypted DVDs.
CSS encryption is worthless, by the way. It has been compromised for over a decade. There are more complex copy-protection methods available that work by creating malformed structures on the DVD meant to confuse "ripping" programs. However, they are an additional cost from third parties and, more significantly, they run the risk of making your product incompatible with older players or with some computer DVD-ROM drives or software players.
Your replication facility can tell you which additional copy-protection methods they offer and what their cost is.

DVD Production with Copy Protection at home.

I'm interested in investing in some sort of mass DVD production equipment. Like a burning tower or something like that but I'd like to encorporate some sort of copy protection into the mix.
Does anyone know anything about this kind of thing or can point me to a solution provider of some kind?
I'm looking to graduate from the one at a time ink jet printed system.
Thanks in advance.

Hi Paul,
Yeah as David says, you cannot get a system that will allow you to put copy protection on your discs. The process that allows the to occur is called replication. It involves a glass master that stamps discs with the data. However, for shorter runs, duplication is often used. Duplication uses lasers to burn pits in a dvd-r media. It does not support protection in the form of CSS (content scrambling system). However, if you are still interested in a larger volume DVD duplication system, check out the Bravo II from primera. There are many other options out there as well. Just do a google search. You may have a little difficulty finding duplicators that are mac compatible since a lot of them use disc juggler which is windows only software. However, there are still a number of good options out there. Good Luck!
--Justin S.

Copy Protected CDs and iTunes - long but important

Hey all, I didn't search all the posts but I haven't seen much mentioned about this topice so I thought I would bring it to your attention. If this is a repeat, I apologize.
The basic issue is this: some new CDs (especially from Sony) have a program on them that loads on the computer and will only allow you to load the songs as WMA files. This happened to me when I bought a copy of Switchfoot's new cd. It says right on the back that it will only work with Media Player but hey, I wasn't paying attention. Apparently this is not an issue is you are using a Mac.
Anyhow, you cannot load these CDs into iTunes and therefore cannot load them onto your iPod. This has created a huge controvery over on the Sony boards and if you follow the link I will give you, you can see it. Switchfoot is a very popular band and a lot of people got hammered over this. I was lucky enough that my Christian store took the opened cd back after I explained the problem and I had to download it from the iTunes store. You lose a song this way but what can you do. I guess the new album by Cold Play is the same way but I am not a fan so I can't be sure.
If you follow the Sony posts, when you get to the 6th page (I think), one of the members of Switchfoot posted and gave us a few ways to get around this. If you have NEVER put one of these copy protected cds into your drive, you do not have the software on your computer yet. He describes a program you can download and then use it after you put the cd in the drive. If you have inserted one of the cds, the little program is hiding somewhere on the computer and that fix will not work.
You can copy it to Media Player, burn it to a cd, and then load it to iTunes. But.........here you are making copies of copies and are going to lose sound quality. How much and will it be noticable, I have no clue.
Someone on the board said Sony is aware of the uproar and will have a version of iTunes that will be able to import these cds sometime in November (it is actually Apple that is doing I would guess). It all started because Apple refuses to give some kind of code to the large labels so they made the copy protection so iTunes will not recognize the cd (no matter how many time you put it into your drive......believe me I tried over and over on Tuesday until I found the Sony boards by doing a Google).
If this is news to you all, I am glad. If a repeat, sorry but I wanted to make sure all iPod owners (especially those of us with PCs) to be aware of this. There is a small alert near the spine of the jewel case that says "Copy Protected" or something like that and then on the back on the bottom it talks about only being able to use in Media Player.
Some who pre-ordered the disk online did not get the cd with the protection and apparantly some got some copies in retail stores that didn't have it also. I looked at all 400 copies the Christian store I bought it from had and they were all protected. Switchfoot is a Christian rock band but have had tremendous success crossing over into the rock genre.
One last thing, I guess the Dual Disk version will work in iTunes., at least that was the latest I had read.
Here is the link to the Sony Board on this topic and if you all can't find the one post about how to get around this, let me know and I will find it and post it here for you.
http://forums1.sonymusic.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/716102313/m/1331071454/p/1
Good luck. I don't know how to make the links work on this board but you can copy/paste it into your browser window.
Hope this helps some of you,
Mike

After using Macs for a number of years at both school and work, I finally ordered an iMac G5 of my own. When the DualDiscs came out I bought a few because I wnated all the content I could get. Attempting to play them on my iMac at work however, proved problematic. The audio side would spin for a few seconds then eject. I was slightly annoyed, but settled for playing the DVD audio versions of the albums as I worked. In my car stereo, the audio would work, but any other player it would not.
When my personal iMac came, I expected the same problem- only the DVD side would play. Imagine my surprise when every DualDisc I attempted to rip (Switchfoot, Bruce Springsteen, Rob Thomas, Ben Folds, The Wallflowers, Oasis, David Gray) in iTunes was read and successfully ripped.
So I wonder this- is it as much a problem with older Superdrives not being able to read the thicker discs as anything else?
Or am I an anomaly

Copy protecting PDF files

I know that complete copy protection of a PDFs is not possible--at least that is what I have read. But can someone tell me why this shouldn't work: I create my document in InDesign. The layer I want to protect (the data I sell) is the bottom layer. I then add a second "invisible" layer that is a "button" and put it on top.
In the trial version I set up, the button-layer, when clicked, takes me to a page I created that tells me that copying is not allowed. Seemed to work. But not being much of a PDF person, I am not sure how effective this is (read: how easy would it be for a person to get to the bottom (data) layer if they really tried.)
The reason for the security is that my document will be sold to subscribers as a PDF. Much of the data in it comes from sources who would not be too happy about their data going any further than the intended reciepent.
If I can get the copy problem solved (to a reasonable degree) I will need to get to work on finding out the best way to prevent (or at least make difficult) further distribution of the document!

I played around with watermarks a few days ago. And I still might incorporate them when the time comes. What my main problem is, is that the companies that provide me with the data that goes in to the final PDF needs to be as copy-proof as possible, otherwise they will stop selling me their data.
So I am trying to come up with a method that would really require subscribers to my magazine to go out of their way to have to copy the data (which are mostly tables made in Excel spreadsheets). My suppliers haven't minded (too much) that up to now I have have been publishing their info in our printed magazine. They know people can scan the data from there. They just don't want it to be made available in a format where it can be easily "stolen" and distribued further electronically. I pay them a lot for their data and I am not their only customer. If it gets too easy for people to take the data from me, they will loose other customers.
I will keep trying different techniques.

HT1473 It seems like many commercial music CDs won't import into iTunes (copy protection?), so you can only play them from the disc, not your other devices. Am I missing something?

More and more commercial music CDs won't seem to import into iTunes - they just spin, falter, and spit out. I would think I had a setting wrong except older CDs load with no problem. I'm guessing there's copy protection on the newer ones, which seems unfair if you want to, say, buy a CD that has bonus material not available via iTunes (and then have to buy the regular material again on iTunes). Is there a way around this? An easy fix so I can keep buying CDs when I want to? I know it's a technology that's on the way out, but it's not gone yet.

Audio CD copy protection is relatively rare. I doubt its use is on the increase as it would be just one more nail in CD's coffin. On the few occasions I've bought CDs that won't rip I've gone straight back to the store for a refund. If the drive is attempting to read at max. speed it might help to force it to read slower (if indeed you have that as an option) and it may help to switch the error correction mode.
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I am having problems opening a copy protected cd file

I am trying to open a CD which contains mainly PDF files and is copy protected but somehow it doesn't open and doesn't even appear anywhere on my computer. I have managed to access it through the Disk Utility and foun the CD on hidden folder volumes, but when I try to open the disk the folder inside it appears for a few seconds and disappears, as if the disk was blank. I suppose that it has to do with the copy protection, since the content appears to be in the disk.....If someone could please enlighten me on this subject I would appreciate very much, because I really need the files on this CD with kind of a hurry! Thank you!

On the Mac open System Preferences > iCloud. Deselect the box next to: Documents & Data then reselect it.
On the iPad tap Settings > iCloud
Switch Documents & Data off then back on.
Give iCloud a minute to re sync the data then try opening that document on either your Mac or iPad,

Cannot Play or Copy an EMI CD with Copy Protection

Today I purchased "warnings, promises" by Idlewild.
The disc was purchased new from BMG online and there was no mention of copy-protection on the web site.
On this disc (from EMI) it says "Copy Controlled".
When I place it in my mac drive it sees it as a data disk, but not a music disc.
ITunes cannot play it or burn it.
Any thoughts on how I can play this music that I legally purchased?
Chris

I had a similar problem with the latest Jackson Browne CD, I sent feedback to EMI but I doubt it will make any difference. My CD plays but with audible drop outs on the Mac, won't play at all on a DVD player I have but will play on a 20 year old Cambridge CD2 player. If it plays on a normal CD player you could record it to your HD by connecting the tape out of your hi-fi to the Mac. I do this with vinyl but it works just as well with CD. You need audio software to edit the file, I use Sound Studio from www.felttip.com. You can download a fully functional 15 day trial from their website. In addition to the software you need an RCA to 3.5mm audio plug cable

How can I copy protect a Labview application?

We have a high value Labview 7.1 application that we want to copy protect. Are there any third party software solutions available that work with Labview and provide hardware locked copy protection? We want to prevent a single license key from being shared to allow installation of our application on multiple machines.
We looked into Software Passport / Armadillo but Software Passport does not support Labview. We would prefer to use a third party solution as opposed to coding something ourselves. We are not experienced with writing software security applications but if third party solutions are not available I guess we'll need to get our feet wet. Thanks.

I can imagine that a direct API implementation might be better.
My personal experience of such implemtnations has been that under these circumstances it is critical that: -
The implementation is solid.
Trust and security are correctly established.
It has been my experience that the above are quite difficult to assure. Where it works the EXE approach is probably better although the exposure to an attack by a sotware kit might be greater.
The above are why I indicated my alternate technique, not using a donlge but my own system. It is almost certainly weaker than a commercial implementation in some possibly many ways. But has the advantage that I change the implementation and techniques and whoever wants to access it has to start from zero. There are no kits because there aren't a million copies available.
I guess the right thing to do is to issue a challenge............perhaps with a reward........
But my experience of encryption is that it can always be broken by someone somwhere. The real questions are by who and when.
Message Edited by Conseils on 11-03-2007 12:07 PM

Failing to import my own audio files (not copy protected files)

I'm having trouble getting external audio files to import properly into GarageBand, most specifically MP3 files. These aren't copy protected audio files, these are files I've created myself in other programs and unprotected MP3 sound effects clips downloaded from various web sites.
Here's what happens, I open GB and create a new project. I find the audio file that I want to start with, an MP3 file that plays just fine in QuickTime and iTunes. I drag the audio file into GB to create a new track. GB begins a conversion/import process or whatever it does to be able to edit an MP3 file. I see the progress bar filling up as it does this. When it is complete a new track is created with the MP3 file's name, however the track itself is empty. I don't see any content and there is no audio when I hit play. I don't get any sort of error message either.
I've tried playing with the MP3 file settings, changing them to mono, adjusting bit rates, compression, etc. but every time I try to import into GB this same process happens with no results. These audio files I'm creating play in all my other audio playing apps, so I'm confused as to what could be wrong.
Can someone tell me how I can get GB to import these files properly? Thanks in advance!

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New MacBook containsa form of digital copy protection - TRUE?

I was told that Apple's new MacBook lines includes a form of digital copy protection that will prevent protected media, such as DRM-infused iTunes movies, from playing back on devices that aren't compliant with the new priority protection measures.
The Intel-developed technology is called High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) and aims to prevent copying of digital audio and video content as it travels across a variety of display connectors, even if such copying is not in violation of fair use laws.
Among the connectors supported by the technology are the Mini DisplayPort found on Apple's latest MacBook, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air, in addition to others such as Digital Visual Interface (DVI), High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI), Gigabit Video Interface (GVIF), and Unified Display Interface (UDI).
Apple has apparently acquired a license for the technology and is now using it across its DisplayPort-enabled MacBook lines to to prevent transmission of purchased iTunes content to devices that don't include support for HDCP.
Will this mean that if I purchase legitimate Video/Movies form Apple I will no longer be able to play them on Windows OS, PS3, XBox etc?, I hope not?

ChrisFu672819227364 wrote:
Right you are guys, thank you so much for responding!
I found out today that if HDCP was my problem I would still be able to mirror my desktop onto my TV, ie my samsung LN32A450, but I can not. The adaptor works on many other things as I mentioned above but not my TV.
I have been speaking with Samsung today and they have no information about the issue other then sending a technician to my house to have a look and if it's not the TV's fault then I will be charged for the service.
So summary;
Apple = no advice
Samsung = no advice
MDP-VGA company = apple = no advice
Therefore I must trial and error it.
I checked for updated firmware for the TV, placed the file onto a flash drive and inserted into my TV driver was up to date .: no results also no updates for the macbook.
I went to futureshop and tried running my macbook on a samsung 450 series (same as mine) and a 550 series (next step up) and same thing, no video on the TV.
I then moved to a toshiba and it worked instantly, as well when I checked with tech support on campus they brought me to the campus computer store down the hall and we hooked it up to the toshiba in there and it worked right a way.
macbook +MDP-VGA + PC computer monitor = works
macbook +MDP-VGA + projector = works
macbook +MDP-VGA + toshiba HDTV = works
macbook MDP-VGA LG HDTV= doesn't work
macbook +MDP-VGA + samsung HDTV = doesn't work
I have been trying really hard to figure this out with no resolve and it's been terrible, If you guys can figure out this riddle you are doing better then me, Samsung, and Apple combined.
Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
oh and sorry for the comment about waiting for 10.6, I meant it would be brutal to have to wait for the next OS or replace my macbook again just to get this to work.
It might just be your Samsung TV being compliant to HDCP but not DPCP (Display Port Content Protection) which your Toshiba TV might be.
deltatux

Copy-Protecting DVDs against piracy in DVD Studio Pro; or otherwise ?

Copy-Protecting DVDs against piracy in DVD Studio Pro; or otherwise ?
I'm about to start encoding to MPEG2 a very important project that I've edited in Final Cut Pro.
It is vital that it cannot be copied by the client or I could lose a lot of money.
In the past this has never been a concern, but in this case it is very important.
What is the best way to prevent a client/people from copying your DVDs?
Is there anything I can do within DVD Studio Pro or is there anything the Replication house can do at the Glass-Mastering stage?
I'm sure this topic has been covered, but a quick search found nothing.
Thanks guys.

Common problem but no easy answer. It's simply too easy to get around.
If you want to prevent finished master disks being copied in the same way commercial disks are then you will need to get them made at a duplication facility. Not cheap. You can't do it in DVD studio, it's to do with the disk burner.
On a feature film it is very important to prevent copies of work in progress. What a lot of cutting rooms do is make dvd's with the name of the person burnt in and a copy number. Often a large X with 30% opacity is put in the middle of frame.
This can't stop copies being made but at least you will know where they came from. It also seems to make the person who's name is burnt in take more care.
Sorry but thats the best I can offer.
John

Changing aspect ratio of copy protected videos?

I am attempting to watch a widescreen TV show I purchased through the iTunes store on my LG plasma screen. My usual setup is a digital video out and into the plasma using VGA. The screen in this mode only gives me two aspect ratios to choose from: 16:9 or 4:3. In 16:9 mode the image appears streched and in 4:3 mode I have black margins an boths sides of the screen. When I watch a widescreen video in 16:9 it is streched with margins at the top and botton and in 4:3 mode I have now margins left and right and top and botton. I therefore usually change the aspect ratio in Quicktime so that it displays correctly in 16:9 format on the plasma. Unfortunately the new TV shows in the store are not just copy protected but I now cannot even change the aspect ratio of a video anymore under "movie properties". So the only option I have is to use the S-video output of my old Powerbook and connect to the composite input of the plasma. While this gives me many more aspect ratio options (intrinsic to the design of the plasma) the picture quality is poor. So how can I solve this? I do not want to purchase Apple TV. I have everything hardwired and do not want to change that. I understand that the files need to be copy protected. However, Apple should enable me to change the aspect ratio of a video to be able to view movies at high resolution and without a distorted picture. Any idea how to solve this?

Hi Sameer,
Thanks for your note, but the issue a bit different. Clicking the "fit page" and "fit width" allows you to change the zoom on the document, but the viewing area within the pod remains at a fixed ratio. So the document (unless the pod size is set at the same ratio) never fills the entire pod. Is this clear? I've added some screen shots to show what I mean more clearly.
As you can see, no matter what the zoom level is on the PDF (or if it's to fit width as the above screen shot), it's constrained proportionally (as I mentioned, I think it's at 4:3). Ideally, I'd like to get the PDF so it can fill the entire pod and zoom in and out. Is this possible with Connect?
Thanks! Appreciate your help.
Jonathan
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Copy Protection for home movies

I have a small video recording business. I taped a ballet recital and will sell the videos to the parents. I would like to know if there is a way that I can copy protect these so they can not make copies of them.
thanks

And as Sue has already pointed out, if any of us can easily download the software to rip a commercial DVD to our computers that have millions of industry dollars behind the copy protection techniques on them, what makes you think that your home produced DVDs would be any safer?
Usually the best thing to do is get in the mind set that you are providing a service (capturing a moment in time) and an initial product (that moment presented on a DVD with nice menus and such), but you are not a production house that makes their money off number of units moved. My guess is for something like a ballet recital, the parents are not all going to get together and buy a single copy and then make copies among themselves. Instead they will likely all buy their own copy and any additional copies they make would be sent to grandparents and things like that. And if you somehow made it uncopyable, then likely they would not come back to you to purchase additional copies but either not send a copy to Grandma or just dub a version to video tape.
In other words, I think in these small business situations, the initial buyers are likely to buy anyway and the subsequent copies wanted wouldn't be through you anyway. So you are basically trying to protect against something that isn't going to affect you anyway.
Just my opinion as a parent who has bought DVDs of various kids things from the "pros" who put them together (e.g. cheerleading competitions, etc.) but would never buy additional copies from those same people at the same price (I consider the price I paid to be for the service, not the actual copy).
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