Copying disk with carbon copy cloner to an iBook?

Hey guys. My iBook clam 366 indigo is running 10.2 Jaguar and I'm wanting to use Tiger so I can run some newer apps. I have an iMac g3 which is running Tiger and I was wondering if it would be possible to copy the disk from my iMac to the iBook using carbon copy cloner. I think it would work since both my iMac and iBook have firewire, and I could simply use target disk mode on the iBook and treat it like an external drive. I'm guessing my question is rather it would be bootable and fully functional on the iBook after I copied the disk image. Thanks.
-Aaron

Hello There, I'm no expert but I have installed Tiger on an Indigo firewire Clam via my iMac G3 using target disc mode. I have also done it using an external (powered as the Clam can't supply enough power) DVD drive as my tiger disc was a DVD-ROM. Just hold down Shift, Option, Command and Delete at the same time to force your clam to boot from the external drive. thern carry on with the install. Hope this helps, Good luck.

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