Copying T20 Win98SE hidden partition/software

I'm dealing with a T20 2647-46U that has the Win98 SE install and drivers on a pre-boot service partition.
It took forever to locate just the utility on the IBM/Lenovo web site to restore the F11 prompt at boot to regain access to the partition. (That utility was never included with IBM tools on this pre-install. At least not on the version of Win98SE they put on this T20.)
The problem is: I can't find the appropriate IBM utility to create an image of the service partition to back it up. It used to be on the sight in the pre-Lenovo days. It probably is still there, but finding things is a lot harder since Lenovo took over. As I recall, it was a floppy based program that allowed you to create an ISO image of the pre-installed software in order to back it up. Once you created the backup image you could burn it to CD afterward. This is all very much predating Lenovo Rescue and Recovery v3.01 which isn't supported on a T20.
Does anyone know where that utility is to backup the pre-installed software partition on a t20? I want to install something else, but I would rather back up the hidden partition first.
Thanks.

I think you must do a complete disk backup.
You can use software such Norton Ghost.
Best regards.
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