Core Center causing me issues - is this a viable alternative?

Hi - I have been using corecenter ONLY to adjust fan speed and to monitor core temperature. However, corecenter seems to be overriding my bios settings (I have set up the board for overclock in BIOS). An example of this is corecenter reducing the vcore to that which is set in the software rather than in bios - same goes for FSB.
So - I have installed MBM for monitoring temps and that is going fine. My question is, can I wire my CPU fan (Zalman 7700) straight in to my fan controller which has dials to control rpm? Is this ok to do or is it a crazy idea?
Cheers,
Dub

i tried it and everything is working fine. The motherboard can not see my CPU fan at all and is not shutting down.
I have cool n quiet disabled and am not using smart cpu fan target.

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This is the point : i bought a brand new 915P Neo2 last week,
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still unstable !
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[ Dual Core Center ]
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I do not know many people that use CoreCenter.
I stopped using it myself in the beginning, as you can simply set the fans in the BIOS.
And the over-temp-shutdown is done by the BIOS automaticly so no reason to set in CC either.
-Thanks Bas,
---I can't adjust anything but alarms in CC anyway, so I just use it for the advanced warning. Maybe it was a conflict between BIOS & CC that caused it, never checked to see if the settings were the same between the two User Profiles, but again the 2nd User profile is gone, so it won't be a problem for me any longer.
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---Thanks again,
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