Core Center Question ?

hello guys,
i wanted to know about corecell feature and and core center i am using latest version now and my CPU fan is usually at 4440 RPM even with gaming but my system temperature increases from 43-47 usually when gaming ? is this ok and my CPU temperature is 51C because its Prescott and i cannot do anything about it ? i wanted to know does corecell protect our computer from electric shock, overheating without Core Center or it would not without core center becasue the first time after installing windows xp service pack 1 (clean installation) i hear loud noise usually the CPU fan is on full speed but as soon as i installed the latest version of Core Center it adjusts it automatically and quietly and should i change my CPU priority for Core Center as maximum does that do any thing and i wanted to know i have DDR 400 Mhz but in bios it says DDR 333 because i have 533 FSB CPU is that right ? well does that mean i wasted my money on this or does that mean an upgrade to FSB 800 will make that better.

well, your MSI P4 mobo is your friend, because it shuts the system down, when the CPU is about to overheat. and the function "spread spectrum" helps preventing all static issues. but you should disable it, when you overclock. at least its recommended that way in the manual.
your temps seem fine to me, and they look even better because you have a Prescott.
dont change any settings in corecenter. everything is just fine there. i think it reports the temps a little higher than they actually are, but thats just my two cents. but 4400RPM is really fast! my CPU fan isnt reported to be faster than 2800 at most. still enough for my CPU.
no dude, everything is fine with your system. DDR400 memory goes in sync with FSB800 CPUs, such as the northy c versions.

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After the proper bios adjustments and correct settings i can use corecenter to reach the maximium overclocking setting for this tool.
In bios i do have to set vcore at 1.45 and HT at 4x , disable agressive timings.
This way will lead to a fsb of 222, for my memory also without changing the timings leading to a 6600 score in sandra for memory.
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Finding your way through it you can then set it in bios and forget about corecenter.
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Originally posted by Wonkanoby
most boards use the 3.3v rail to power ram
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Question about this vcore reading I never really noticed this tell now
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Can you make core center automatically close after being called on startup?

Can you make core center automatically close after being called on startup so it can set cpu fan speed to a slower fixed speed then exit?
If core center really cant do such a simple task then can speedfan or another program?

Quote from: bassmadrigal on 13-July-05, 07:42:36
Why don't you want them running. Speedfan has a very small footprint.
Just seems unnecesary seeming as it does its task as soon as it runs and its changes then stay applied. Speed fan is probably better but core center takes 10mb.
Quote from: syar2003 on 13-July-05, 07:57:02
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Thats how i have used it .
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