Correcting white balance and exposure

Does FCE offer good ways to fix bad white balance and underexposure?
I just tested the video filter for underexposure and color and they improve things are just pathetic compared to an edit an editor friend did in full Final Cut. So maybe FCE can do better and I just missed or did not see what to do?

You would probably do better with the 2-way color corrector than what you originally did. The 3-way in FCP is a better tool but the 2-way is what comes with FCE.
In general, with the 2-way color corrector you should start adjustments this way:
Click the Auto Contrast button once
Then do Auto Black followed by Auto White (one click each)
Then adjust the Mids if necessary.
After all that, play with the color balance..
To better white balance your shot it often helps to crank the Saturation slider all the way up, then use the eyedropper tool at the lower left of the Balance wheel to select something in your shot that should be truly white (white, not necessarily bright). Since the saturation slider is all the way up, any adjustments you make will be exaggeraged but that helps you get it right. You can make further adjustments to get the whites as neutral as possible and then slide the saturation back down to a more normal level. It takes some noodling, but it can be done.

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Correct white balance

I just join new job. They taped big project with white wall. Three cameras. Two of them are same and one new camera. I am not sure which camcorders but I see those two cameras are apparently off white balance (slight yellow) while new camera show look great. I am not familiar with color corrections. It got me confused which ones that I should adjust for white balance correction like level controls highlighs mids blacks, color balance, color controls.. all those... not sure which is good to correct white balance. Hope that I am able to match with one look so white and great colors.

Try the Magic Wand.
Turn the CC to Visual mode, that's where you see the colour wheels.
At about seven o'clock on the Balance wheel is a little eye dropper.
Here's how to do it:
Have the clip edited into the Timeline then place your playhead over that clip.
Open this clip (the one in the Timeline that needs to be corrected) into the Viewer. Okay, what you have is the same clip being diplayed in the Viewer and Canvas. This is so when color corrections are made in the Viewer you can see the changes in the Canvas straight away. You know if things going the right way or not.
Drag the Color Corrector from the Browser>Effects>Video Filters>Color Correction>Color Corrector and drop it on the Viewer.
A Color Corrector Tab will be available on the Viewer.
Click the Color Corrector Tab and the CC Filter appears.
Click the eye dropper and move the cursor over the Canvas, the cursor should look like an eye dropper if all is well.
Find something that should be WHITE in the Canvas, place the eye dropper over this and click on it. Instant balance correction can be seen in the Canvas.
If this doesn't work then you can use the wheels manually to change the balance.
Al

White balance and RAW

I have been importing RAW files from my Canon S70 for a while, and everything has worked very well. Recently, however, imported RAW files are showing up with the incorrect white balance in iPhoto (different from the one they were taken with on the camera). If I open the same RAW file in any other editor the correct white balance is displayed. Does anyone know how I might fix this?
The weird part is that it didn't used to do this--iPhoto used to display all my RAW files w/ the white balance they were taken with. It was nice because I could just export JPGs directly. Now, however, I have to open them up in another editor and export so they have the correct WB.
Any help would be great, thanks.

Heya Black eyes,
I've never heard of this one before except in an instance where the person was using Photoshop CS to edit the files right after importing them into iPhoto (Photoshop was adding its own colorprofile and throwing off poor iphoto).
Consider removing ~/library/caches, and ~/library/preferences/com.apple.iphoto.plist, and ~/pictures/iphotolibrary/albumdata.xml to the trash.
Restart your computer.
Test iPhoto - does the issue persist?
If so then try creating a new iphoto library by launching iphoto with the option key.
Import from your camera to there.
If it works then your original iphoto library needs to be rebuilt following kbase 107947 and using all 4 options.
If not then I would make sure that the color sync profiles on your system as a whole have not been changed.
Hope that helps!
Cheers!

Correcting White Balance with no white in shot

Does anyone have any tips for correcting white balance when the footage has no white objects to act as a reference? This was the classic mistake of shooting outdoors with an indoor setting. We were rushing to utilise a gap in the rain!
Also, is there any way to tell Premiere how to correct WB via a sort of colour matching, by pointing it towards a correctly white balanced still of the scene?
Thanks
Davyd

This is a really tricky thing. There's a lot of ways to approach it. I had similar problems with a WB correction mismatch between presets on my 7D and 70D. No white in either shot.
I exported a few frames in to PS first to get a rough idea with what I was dealing with.
Use the Info window to check something grey.
Alternately, if there is nothing grey, you can use skin tone patches. This is a common tool used by skin retouchers in PS. Grab a small sample or two from the desired skin tones, either from a 5x5 grab with the eyedropper or just grabbing a small section with the lasso tool and Gaussian Blurring that to heck and back. Once you get a bit of a palette of skin tones you like, you can use that as a reference for your work with the Fast Color Corrector.
To be honest, I feel the FCC is a little underpowered and I wish I had my AAVC 6 Channel HSL tool from Vegas when color correcting.
As a Photoshop geek, I am a little uncomfortable with the video color correction toolset.
To export a frame, click on the viewing panel and hit Ctrl-Shift-E.
Try opening the frames in Adobe Camera Raw and you can get some temp and tint values that can also help you with your Prem Pro toolset.
Remember to watch out for channel clipping when making dramatic changes in WB.

Command Click in edit changes color white balance and tint in edit

Command Click in edit changes color white balance and tint in edit, what is happening?

robwouds:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. Must be a hidden keyboard combination for temperature and tint. Not sure if the user can set different settings of each that the keystrokes will take you thru. Just hit the reset button in the Adjust pane to get it back to normal.
Do you Twango?

Issues with White Balance and other camera setting...

I have found a glitch with the camera on the Lumia 800: When you try to change a different white balance setting- (try it with incandescent so you can see the difference) as well as changing the scene (ie to portrait mode) it will flip back to auto white balance, although it will say that it is still incandescent. If you change the scene first and then the white balance and save those settings, it will take one picture like that and then revert back to auto white balance again for the next shot, but again it will tell you that it is still incandescent. (You can clearly see the white balance difference between the 2 shots, even though the camera settings say they should be the same). The whole point of saving settings is so that you can take multple shots with the same settings. I have spent hours on the phone to Nokia trying to explain this to them and they have assured me that it will be fixed in the next update. I took the phone back to the Orange shop and we tried 3 different handsets and they all had the same problem.
I also have the same problem with video autofocus that lots of people have mentioned. Has anyone found a solution yet? The main reason I got this phone (only last week) was for the camera so I am diappointed. I am a photographer so I am really fussy about cameras! They have said in the Orange shop that I can change the Lumia for another phone, such as a Galaxy S2, which is also an awesome phone. The thing is, I really love the Lumia otherwise. I really like the fact that I don't have an iPhone anymore, for a start!!
Does anyone think the network you are on makes a difference? It's just that several people have suggested that there could be a conflict with the Orange software and the Nokia/Windows software. Does anyone else have this problem who is not with Orange?

Thanks for all of your valuable suggestions.
The problem was compounded when there were drastic shifts in the levels of ambient light also occuring at the same time.
Happy Holidays to everyone.
Bruce

The panel with White Balance, contrast, exposure, whites, blacks, etc. has disappeared from my Develop screen

The panel with White Balance, Exposure, Contrast, Tone, Whites, Blacks, etc has disappeared from my Develop screen. The control panel on the right side now starts with Tone Curve and I can't find a way to revert back to the screen with the other adjustments. I need to know how to correct this problem.
This is what I'm working with now:

Right click 'Tone Curve' (the title/words) and enable 'Basic'.
Do you see it?

White balance and B+W image

I understand how I can use the colour information in a raw file to create a B+W image with some considerable depth and variety. In the B&W tab, I can reset the various contributions of the different colours to the image (which is great), and I can use these to create all kinds of filter effects, etc.
There is one thing I'd like to be able to do that LR doesn't seem to allow me. I would like to get a netural (true) reading of the luminance values of the sensor when I'm converting to B+W. I should be able to do that by setting these values to their middle location (option click gives me a "reset"). However, I'd really like to completely neutralise the white balance settings as this setting is still altering the luminance values of the image.
I really want to have a completely neutral representation of the luminance values as recorded by the sensor with no colour bias in how these are rendered, but I don't see how I can do that with the requirement to set a white balance. It really seems to me that LR should have a way to disable WB when converting to B+W, or at least some way to have WB be bypassed (or neutral). I understand that this can be a part of a creative interpretation (so I'm not suggesting it should be disabled). Then I can still use the B+W colour sliders to control the contribution of each colour, which also might include manipulating white balance.
From the reading I've done, I can chose a 6500K (or 5500K, opinions seem to vary about which value is "most neutral") - and I would assume a value of 0 on the red-green tint, but even in this setting, there still seems to be some notion of a weighting being applied to the recorded colour values.
I don't think I can use LAB in Photoshop for this; I could just take the "L" channel, but then I've lost the colour information, and if I were to keep all three channels, then I think I would still have a WB setting to contend with? (Sorry, I don't know much about how LAB works, so maybe I can do it this way)?
So, basically, I want to start with as neutral a rendering into B+W as I can, just as an achromatic sensor (or B+W film) would record the shot, then use the color information in the RAW file from that point.
Thanks!
Bill

So, basically, I want to start with as neutral a rendering into B+W as I can, just as an achromatic sensor (or B+W film) would record the shot, then use the color information in the RAW file from that point.
An achromatic sensor would have no colour information, but it would still have a certain effective WB built into its hue sensitivity. Same for B&W film, or for any variants on that such as the orthochromatic film which preceded that. Early movie film required lurid coloured makeup (green lipstick IIRC) for the actors, to make their mouths show up in a way that seemed natural in B&W terms. Then the film stock improved, became "panchromatic".
IMO you are misusing the word "neutral" here, since all photographic techniques are carefully designed, developed and then honed by testing so as to correspond credibly to human vision. So it's a matter of choosing among the many representations that are available, one that WE (using some standardised average) consider subjectively believable or natural-looking. All cameras or all Raw conversion impose a contrast curve as standard, which can be varied to taste, but there is no greater "neutrality" to one or another setting for that curve, except what WE choose to invest in that. Same for WB.
If you wished to define a central-weighted averaging-metered shot in LR "neutral" tone curve (under the 2012 process version), using Adobe Standard camera profile, with all other settings at Adobe defaults, Daylight WB, you would not be alone in considering that some kind of an - at least useful - idea of an un-fiddled-with starting point ... merely because, this has not been overtly individualised for a given picture. However any other setup that you can apply consistently, would be an equally valid starting point.
This is like the reliability of witnesses in court - we do not require them to be omniscient and infallible, and would be more (not less) suspicious of the testimony if there was any claim to that; we only require them to be candid, without applying bias or distortion or pretending to be other than they are.
The Raw data is not conventionally human viewable - or at least, we know that we are looking at an artificiality however we make it viewable, and this cannot be a "better" picture per se (whatever it is) without having considered, "better" for what?
If you instead wanted to define a pattern-metered exposure, Camera Standard, auto tone (assuming that worked - grin), AutoWB, apply auto mix to first B&W conversion... as your "vanilla", you might in truth better reflect the highly adaptable nature of human vision... and more particularly, of the kind of camera you picked, as having a pictorial character which seems more natural to you. If you consistently think ALL your out-of-camera images need some kind of correction, then that is YOUR normal. Even "vanilla" does not taste of nothing, it is distinctively sweet and fragrant; but in a way that we become so used to, that it can eventually pass our notice without comment.
A daylight balanced WB picture of a candle-lit scene represents an odd variation on human perceptions, but so does a perfectly WB-corrected one - since our experience of candle-lighting includes the awareness of how much what we see is "warmed", which might be why we have chosen that kind of illumination. The camera WB, and/or the B&W conversion we might make, or (for example) our decision to use tungsten-balanced rather than daylight-balanced film (or a corrective colour filter) to represent it, reflects the same perceptual relativism.
To paraphrase Pontius Pilate, "what is neutrality?" (applies noise reduction, as a digital equivalent of washing hands).

RE: White Balance and Color Temperature

Can we do the same kind of White Balancing, Like we have In Photoshop Camera Raw, In Premiere pro ?
Also, can we change the Color Temperature In Premiere Pro?
Thanks.

Photoshop CC has made Camera RAW available as a filter. That means it is easy to use it on video.
Can you do anything in Camera RAW to a video that you can't do the hard way with color correction and levels, etc, in Premiere Pro? No. Is it easier because you are used to the sliders? You bet!
This first frame is from a video I shot to test the codecs my camera can use. The trees are rather dark, because, well, I didn't care when I shot the video. I was concerned with the movement of the juggling toys.
But if I take it into Photoshop and use Camera RAW I can do very quickly what would take a lot longer, for me, in Premiere Pro. You will have to take my word for it that the color of the shirt in the corrected frame is more realistic. The Camera RAW settings were pretty much what I do to almost all of my photographs. Very slight adjustment to exposure, a little clarity, bring out the shadows, bring down the highlights that are too white and bring up the contrast.

Correcting white balance

I set my white balance wrong for an interior shot. The walls should be white but they are now yellow. Is there a filter or procedure other than the Color Corrector that would give me almost true whites? Something such as a selective color tool where I could select only certain colors and change their hue/saturation etc?
Thanks

>I don't think correcting color temperature is something you'd do with masks.
Certainly not Mr G., just advising how to do a selective color adjustment as per the latter part of the question "Is there ... something such as a selective color tool where I could select only certain colors and change their hue/saturation etc?".
Tacbob, chances are, for a simple white balance issue the built in auto analysis may be all you need, tho its a bit hit and miss and may affect your image in other ways that you didn't want (eg contast and brightness). Otherwise (or to correct for unwanted side affects) for overall color balance adjustmentments you can just use the Color Board (without masks) to affect a global correction by adjusting accordingly ... for example, if the shot is too warm you can move the color tab's Global control to the lower area of the yellow/orange section of the Color Board to subtract some of that unwanted warmth (or if it's too cool then you can move it similarly but to the blue area of the board). Similar controls in the Exposure tab will let you adjust the Contrast / Brightness. Likewise for color saturation in the Saturation tab. Have a read through the info at the link Goldfish provided ... and don't be afarid to poke about a bit, the tools may seem confusing at first but its all non-destructive and a bit of practice is all you need.
Good luck
Andy

White Balance and other Mayhem

This past weekend I was shooting as usual when unexpectedly for several minutes, it was “open season”, anything goes color wise so the footage from that segment is filled with totally inappropriate tints, hues and false coloration like all of the sudden the white balance went haywire amongst other factors.
Then, thrown in for good measure the lighting keep shifting from light to dark to light.
Accordingly, my questions are these:
My goal is to somehow salvage these minutes if it isn’t too much work assuming it can be made to look right. The problem is all of my color correcting experience to date has been solely with digital photography. I have none at all with Premiere and CS3 which appears to eb very involved and complex comparatively speaking. Is there a solution that a newbie to color correction could pursue to some level of success at least as a viable starting point that anyone care to share and explain in some detail?
Does CS 3 have any autofixes or functions exclusively recommended for white balance issues?
For example digital photo editing programs have sliders named just that or maybe they’ll be split between temperature and another associated parameter.
Thanks as any information, suggestions or advice acquired will be used to learn and grow.

Thanks for all of your valuable suggestions.
The problem was compounded when there were drastic shifts in the levels of ambient light also occuring at the same time.
Happy Holidays to everyone.
Bruce

Any good tutorials on workflow for correcting white balance RAW from GoPro 3?

Looking for tutorial on how to color correct video recorded using GoPro 3 with white balance set to RAW. here is sample frame:

"wabbit316" ...
I've got the book by Hullfish & Fowler that shooter-nz recommended and I would HIGHLY recommend you get it. It is well- written, covers working in nearly any NLE/grading/fx application for color & grade corrections, and is easy to understand and apply what you learn reading through it. I'd already spent a fair amount of time playing around working on color/grading in P-Pro, Speedgrade, and Ae before I got the book, but my next bit after reading this went SO much faster and direct ... to a much better solution.
Excellent approach to explaining what one is doing. I've hear good stuff about the other, and frankly ... might very well get that one too. Amazing what a little knowledge can do ...
Neil

White balance and lightroom

is there anywhere in the program that lists the white balance used for an image? thanks

> Develop mode, top right-hand panel. In degrees and tint tilting, ...
... altho it will not likely agree with your camea setting. Lr (and ACR) use a different Wb "model" (e.g., temp, tint) than a camera's Wb temp.

Custom white balance and EXIF data

Using 3.1.1 for two weeks or so, all is good for now but I have a question. After shooting the same subject with different white balance (still learning digital photography) with my D7000, a few with auto WB, a few with the camera's incandescent settings and a few with customized K degrees, 4,500K, 5,000K and 6,200K to analyze the differences, on the exif data, Aperture only shows AWB and the "incandescent" setting on the camera whenever used, but it doesn't show me when I set the degrees by numbers on the camera, it shows as "auto white balance", is this part of the white balance glitch? Although I can see the difference between those custom K degrees on preview, how do I find out in Aperture the exact K used on those custom WB other than looking back on the camera?

Thanks for replying.
No, not in Auto mode. I was in Aperature mode.
I have used custom white balance many times before.
I tried the battery removal etc. No luck there.
Removed and reinserted card. No help.
I finally got out of this hangup.
I downloaded all images to PC using the Canon EOS software.
Then I deleted all images from card in camera.
Then when I set up custom white balance again, it worked just as expected.
There was a very brief flash of the "Busy..." message and then into the next step to set .
Have no clue as why this suddenly started.
Maybe struck by stray gamma ray burst
Canon 3Ti, EF 50mm f/1.4 USM, EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II, EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS II, 320EX Speedlite

Trying to custom white balance and camera is saying "busy ..please wait"

cant custom white balance my 60d never had this problem before the camera is about a year old and started that today.cant figure this out and tech support didnt sound like they heard of it before.

Thanks for replying.
No, not in Auto mode. I was in Aperature mode.
I have used custom white balance many times before.
I tried the battery removal etc. No luck there.
Removed and reinserted card. No help.
I finally got out of this hangup.
I downloaded all images to PC using the Canon EOS software.
Then I deleted all images from card in camera.
Then when I set up custom white balance again, it worked just as expected.
There was a very brief flash of the "Busy..." message and then into the next step to set .
Have no clue as why this suddenly started.
Maybe struck by stray gamma ray burst
Canon 3Ti, EF 50mm f/1.4 USM, EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II, EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS II, 320EX Speedlite

Correcting white balance and exposure

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