Cost Analysis by Sale Order

Hello,
I'm seeking to enable in BI a Cost Analysis Scenario with repect to the Sales Orders. That is, something similar to the analysis you can easily perform in the R/3 area Accounting -> Controlling -> Product Cost Controlling -> Product Cost by Sales Order.
For instance in standard report KKBC_KUN, you can choose a sales order number and get all the cost elements related to that sales order, with the corresponding costs.
I have examined the following objects provided by the BW's Business Content:
- InfoCube 0PC_C01: it contains only the costs related to production orders, and not the costs associated with sales orders.
- InfoSource 0CO_OM_CCA_9: it seems interesting, in fact it delivers some header and line item data of the Controlling Object Document. Unfortunately it doesn't deliver the crucial characteristics Controlling Object and Controlling Object Type, which I definitly need for enabling my analysis scenario!!
(By the way, are these 2 characteristics delivered by the BC? There exists a 0COSTOBJ characteristic, but it's not used by any object in the flow afterwards. Moreover, I can't find a standard DataSource in R/3 which I can use to load either its attributes or its texts, and see what data enter it..)
Business Content for Product Cost by Sales Order), but none could help me.
It seems really weird that it's not possible to carry out a Cost Analysis by Sales Order in BW, so if anyone has some suggestion it'll be very appreciated indeed.
Thanks & Regards, Davide

I eventually found the following SAP Note. No BCT for this analysis scenario....
Note 584791 - BW-BCT-CO: Costs not extracted on sales orders
Symptom
In R/3, costs are posted directly to sales orders. The costs have to be analyzed in the BW system. In the standard system, however, this data is not extracted into the BW system.
Other terms
0CO_OM_OPA_1; 0CO_OM_OPA_6
Solution
1. There are currently no DataSources for costs on sales orders in the standard BW Business Content. Unfortunately, there are currently no resources scheduled for a new development in this area either.
2. Therefore, the DataSources and the Business Content must be created in the customer project within the framework of consulting as a customer solution concerning the generic extraction options of the BW Service APIs or function modules you have programmed yourself for extracting data.
3. Technical background information about costs on sales orders:
The transaction data is available in the following R/3 tables
COSS and COSP - Totals records or COEP - Line items.
This concerns records for the VB* object numbers.
The master data of the sales orders is contained in the VBAK and VBAP tables.
The 0CO_OM_OPA_1 and 0CO_OM_OPA_6 DataSources only extract costs for orders with master data in the AUFK table. These types of requests always have OR* object numbers. Therefore, these DataSources cannot be used for sales orders.
However, you may be able to assign requests from the AUFK table (for example, maintenance orders or production orders) to a sales order through the AUFK-KDAUF table field.

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2. PO 1 (linked to SO 1) : Item Table - Purchase price 100 ; Item Chair - Purchase price 25
3. SO 2 : Item Table - Selling price 150 ; Item Chair - Selling price 40
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