COST ANALYSIS in Process order

Please help me,
This is the doubt regarding Process order COST ANALYSIS,
After creating Process order and going to cost analysis, it is showing cost of a material( for eg, coal) credit., But this material s not included in BOM , niether co product /by product scenario.
So my doubt is from wher it is taking this material.
Thanks and Regards
NITIN

Hi Vivek,
Can you pl share the cause of the same.
Ulhas

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Re: Target Quantity in Cost Analysis for process Order

Hi ,
How is the target quantity is being calculated in Process order.
Two of BOM components total target qty, is different from the plan quanity.
Please advice.
Regards,
Vivek Sharma

Hi Vivek,
Can you pl share the cause of the same.
Ulhas

PLANNED AND ACTUAL COST IN A PROCESS ORDER

From where the planned cost of material and activity types in cost itemizationafter creation flow ?From where the actual cost of a material and activity types in cost analysis of process order after confirmation flow?

You may be knowing you give Costing Variants ( Both actual as well as Planned ) in Order type. These Costing variants contains Valuation variants which says which costs are to be taken while creation ( for Planned Cost ) and Actual cost ( while confirming and Moving Goods) to be calculate. These Variants decides mode of Cost Flows.
Now, Data in Planned costs are Standard Cost figures or Current prices for material or Planned Prices of Activities.
As far as Actual costs are considered it may be the price for the consumed quantity @ the moving average price of the day or activity price for the qty. consumed which include up planned consumption too.....
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Cost Analysis by Sale Order

Hello,
I'm seeking to enable in BI a Cost Analysis Scenario with repect to the Sales Orders. That is, something similar to the analysis you can easily perform in the R/3 area Accounting -> Controlling -> Product Cost Controlling -> Product Cost by Sales Order.
For instance in standard report KKBC_KUN, you can choose a sales order number and get all the cost elements related to that sales order, with the corresponding costs.
I have examined the following objects provided by the BW's Business Content:
- InfoCube 0PC_C01: it contains only the costs related to production orders, and not the costs associated with sales orders.
- InfoSource 0CO_OM_CCA_9: it seems interesting, in fact it delivers some header and line item data of the Controlling Object Document. Unfortunately it doesn't deliver the crucial characteristics Controlling Object and Controlling Object Type, which I definitly need for enabling my analysis scenario!!
(By the way, are these 2 characteristics delivered by the BC? There exists a 0COSTOBJ characteristic, but it's not used by any object in the flow afterwards. Moreover, I can't find a standard DataSource in R/3 which I can use to load either its attributes or its texts, and see what data enter it..)
Business Content for Product Cost by Sales Order), but none could help me.
It seems really weird that it's not possible to carry out a Cost Analysis by Sales Order in BW, so if anyone has some suggestion it'll be very appreciated indeed.
Thanks & Regards, Davide

I eventually found the following SAP Note. No BCT for this analysis scenario....
Note 584791 - BW-BCT-CO: Costs not extracted on sales orders
Symptom
In R/3, costs are posted directly to sales orders. The costs have to be analyzed in the BW system. In the standard system, however, this data is not extracted into the BW system.
Other terms
0CO_OM_OPA_1; 0CO_OM_OPA_6
Solution
1. There are currently no DataSources for costs on sales orders in the standard BW Business Content. Unfortunately, there are currently no resources scheduled for a new development in this area either.
2. Therefore, the DataSources and the Business Content must be created in the customer project within the framework of consulting as a customer solution concerning the generic extraction options of the BW Service APIs or function modules you have programmed yourself for extracting data.
3. Technical background information about costs on sales orders:
The transaction data is available in the following R/3 tables
COSS and COSP - Totals records or COEP - Line items.
This concerns records for the VB* object numbers.
The master data of the sales orders is contained in the VBAK and VBAP tables.
The 0CO_OM_OPA_1 and 0CO_OM_OPA_6 DataSources only extract costs for orders with master data in the AUFK table. These types of requests always have OR* object numbers. Therefore, these DataSources cannot be used for sales orders.
However, you may be able to assign requests from the AUFK table (for example, maintenance orders or production orders) to a sales order through the AUFK-KDAUF table field.

Costing varients in process order

Dear Gurus
Can u tell where we r assigning costing varients in process order cofiguration side (Planned & Actual)
Thanks & Regards
Ragesh

You have to assign these costing variants in COR4 transaction in controlling tab for process orders.
Regards
TAJUDDIN

Target cost calculation in Process Order based on Variance Calculation

Hi all,
I have a question on Target cost calculation in Process Order. My understanding is, the Target Costs gets calculated when the confirmation and GR is made for the Process Order.
But if the confirmation/GR is not done, whether the target costs gets calculated for only the activity types after the Variance Calculation (KKS2).
I have two scenarios. In one, the target costs got calculated for the activity types without the confirmation/GR after the Variance calculation.
In another scenario, the target costs are not getting calculated for the activity types without the confirmation/GR if I try to do the variance calculation in KKS2.
SO i want to know which scenario is correct?
Can anyone answer this question?
Thanks and Regards,
Brijesh

Hi,
In general, the target costs are calculated once you deliver the order.
Target costs for the components and the activities are updated only once you deliver the order and the target cost for the finished product gets updated when you do the variance calculation.
Consider your scenario number 1 - you said the target costs got calculated for activity types without confirmation / GR after variance calculation.
Now, if the order is not having any status like PDLV, DLV or TECO it will not calculate the variances in the first place.
Your second scenario is correct - without GR the system does not calculate any target costs. Also it will not calculate any variances because the order status is still not DLV.
Best Regards,
Sameer

Authorization for Cost Analysis in Production Order

Hi,
Can I maintain the authorization for displaying cost analysis in production order.
I try to create transaction variant....into ZCO02 and ZCO03
but in COOIS it is still branching to CO02 when changing and CO03 when displaying.
I want to disable the cost analysis view in production order so PP people can not access it.
is there any idea?
Please help.
Best regards,
Freddy Ha

Hi,
as i know K_ORDER is authorization for internal order.
We have activate the check in SU24,
but when we tried to trace the authorization when CO02 -> GOTO -> COST _> ANALYSIS
this auth K_ORDER is never check.
Did I miss something here?
Best regards,
Freddy Ha

Cost analysis through Purchase Order created from Sales Order

Hi Experts,
This is the scenario: There is an Item No. which is not stocked in warehouse and is purchased only when customers ask for it. The cost of the sales order line having this item is calculated by the Purchase Order line on which the item is there. (The PO have items for other Sales Orders as well. And, Sales Orders have multiple item types) The Sales Order have the PO no. against it and Purchase Order has SO no. against the line. This is all done using MS Access and Sage Accounts. Lots of free typing and manual cost analysis involved.
I have gathered from this forum that we can create Purchase Order from the Sales Order. The Document No. information can be pulled from one another using Formatted Search. Can we do the accounting and cost analysis as well?
Please let me know if I have not made myself clear.
Thank you in advance and kind regards.
IC
Edited by: iancameron03 on Sep 20, 2011 4:35 PM

Hi Ian,
I concur with Faraz, it is better if you use procurement document facility in doing back to back transaction from SO to PO.
However, in your case, I'm afraid you can't analyze the gross profit and recording the accounting related activity as your request using standard SAP B1 function.
As for gross profit case:
Since you're actually using workaround in order to evade all hassles in maintaining all item master data related to this case, you create just one item code called S1 right?
SO DocEntry - SO Line # - Item Code - Item Name - Quantity - Price
1001 - 0 - S1 - Table - 2 - 100
1001 - 1 - S1 - Chair - 8 - 25
1001 - 2 - S1 - Cloth - 3 - 10
PO # - PO Line # - PO BaseEntry (SO DocEntry) - PO BaseLine (SO Line #) - Item Code - Item Name - Quantity - Price
2001 - 0 - 1001 - 0 - S1 - 2 - 100
2001 - 1 - 1001 - 1 - S1 - 8 - 25
2001 - 2 - 1001 - 2 - S1 - 3 - 10
Note that standard B1 gross profit calculation is that system will compare selling price for each item with item cost / certain price list of each respective item. However, in your case, you put all item as a single item master. Thus, system couldn't compare Table to Table, Chair to Chair, Cloth to Cloth since the item cost for these 3 items will be the same, the price list for these 3 items will also be the same since it is actually only one master data. Of course you could update the gross profit calculation manually for each SO, but to be honest it seems rather weird to do this manually.
So, in order to simulate the gross profit calculation, you need to create a custom query and comparing PO line no with SO line no.
As far as accounting related recording concern, I'm afraid you can't do it
1. SO 1 : Item Table - Selling price 130 ; Item Chair - Selling price 30
2. PO 1 (linked to SO 1) : Item Table - Purchase price 100 ; Item Chair - Purchase price 25
3. SO 2 : Item Table - Selling price 150 ; Item Chair - Selling price 40
4. PO 2 (linked to SO 2) : Item Table - Purchase price 110 ; Item Chair - Purchase price 30
Correct me if I'm wrong, you want to record accounting wise that CoGS of Delivery based on SO 1 is 100 for Table and 25 for Chair, isn't it? No matter what costing method you use, you can't achieve this.
If you use moving average, system will average both Table and Chair cost price, since it is actually one item master data. Even if you distinguish each item as a master data, system will average the cost price for Table and Cloth by the time GR for PO 1 and PO 2 occurred.
Example (order by sequence of event):
1. GR based on PO 1 - Table - Purchase price = 100, therefore Item cost = 100
2. GR based on PO 2 - Table - Purchase price = 110, therefore Item cost = 105 (considering quantity only one for both PO)
3. Delivery based on SO 1 - Table - CoGS incurred will be 105, not 100
To certain extent, same thing could be said with FIFO costing method
1. GR based on PO 1 - Table - Purchase price = 100 (qty 1)
2. GR based on PO 2 - Table - Purchase price = 110 (qty 1)
3. Delivery based on SO 1 - Table - CoGS incurred will be 100 (qty 1)
4. Delivery based on SO 2 - Table - CoGS incurred will be 110 (qty 1)
At first glance, it seems right since the CoGS for SO 1 is 100, tied up with purchase price for PO 1. And CoGS for SO 2 is 110, tied up with purchase price for PO 2. But we're using assumption here, we're assuming the sequence of Goods Receipt of PO and Delivery of SO occurred in the very same sequence as the issuance of SO and PO.
1. GR based on PO 1 - Table - Purchase price = 100 (qty 1)
2. GR based on PO 2 - Table - Purchase price = 110 (qty 1)
3. Delivery based on SO 2 - Table - CoGS incurred will be 100 (qty 1)
4. Delivery based on SO 1 - Table - CoGS incurred will be 110 (qty 1)
If above scenario / sequence that happened, you will get the wrong figure of gross profit since the Delivery of SO 2 will take the item cost based on GR of PO 1. Since we're actually talking about real life business process, who can guarantee that above scenario wouldn't happen? It is possible that you send goods to customer who ordered late in real life, too much possibility that it is better for you to mitigate such result.
My suggestion would be that you record the accounting transaction based on standard business process, no need to really capture the actual cost and actual gross profit for certain SO and PO. Too complicated, and the software itself doesn't cater this kind of requirement. Best thing you could do only create custom query for gross profit simulation calculation, but for very accurate accounting recording, IMO you should forget it. Hope this help.
Best Regards,
Hendry Wijaya

Costing issue in process order

Hi everybody,
We are facing a problem now like... for a FG material we have changed the BOM, updated recipe but costing release was not done before that a process order had been created, material release carried out, process order confirmation made, GR made and the stock is there in FG location, In the cost analysis it shown Rs. 1.14 lakh as variance in FG consumption G/L.
Now we reversed the stock from FG location, canceled the confirmation and changed the order qty to 1nos, to make the order dummy, but still cost analysis shows Rs. 1.14 lakh variance in FG consumption G/L
Help us to resolve this.

Hi,
Now for the finished good create material cost estimate with quantity structure
Create standard cost estimate (marking and release to be carried out)
now for the same old process order in the cost analysis u can see different value for total target cost
carry out confirmation and u will get the total actual costs based on the activity types u have assigned
-Variance=(difference between total target cost and total actual cost)
Variance related settings are done in consultation with Controlling people.
Regards,
Raj

Actual cost for the Process Orders

Hi Experts,
I want to know the actual cost for total one month process orders.
I can check actual cost for each order in COR2- by entering in to cost analysis.
But, my request is, where to check actual cost for One perticular product for the total month (ex: 100 Orders) or certain period.
can eny body give solution by sparing your precious time.
adv. thanks and regards,
Anand.M (Hyderabad)

Hi,
Try MCRI / MCRY or check the table entries of S027
Regards,
Srini

Actual Cost Calculation in Process Order

Hi All,
I updated Standard cost of a raw material through a cost estimate and also ran cost estimate of the FIN that is using this raw material but when I am creating a Process order, it is taking the cost of this particular raw material from the previous estimate not the recent one to calculate the target cost. Can any body help me with this.
Thanks
MKR

Hi Ashok,
My Valuation variants for the Costing Variant of Cost Estimate and Production order (Actual/Plan) cost calculation are in Sync to get the prices according to the price indicator in material master. But when it calculates cost for a production order, it is picking up cost from the previous period for that particular raw material. I have updated the standard cost by running the cost estimate but still its not working.
Any lead on this. This will be really appreciated.
Thanks
MKR

Cost balance against process order.

Hi Guru,
1)I have one error in process order , in that user has reverse order, all material movements has correctly reversed.
But there is still cost balance in that particular order which is due to price difference. How can I post this difference ?
2)Again in certain process order which is cancelled(cors). by mistake, user has reversed settlement through ko88 , due to this order having cost balance.
When I going to do ko88, system gives message u201C there is no accured amount,settlment is not possibleu201D. How can remove this cost balance?
you reply is valuable.
Regards
Sanjay.

Hi,
But there is still cost balance in that particular order which is due to price difference. How can I post this difference ?
Error : Balance of order xxxxxx is not zero
issue is due to Goods movements were posted even after the variance was posted , thus balance is not ZERO.here goodsmovents should be reversed & should run the varinace calculation again.To run the vaiance calcualtion (KKS2), order should have the status of DLV or TECO.
When I going to do ko88, system gives message u201C there is no accured amount,settlment is not possibleu201D. How can remove this cost balance?
You can NOT settle the order unless order have the status DLV or TECO.
You can remove the cost balace by running the variance calcualtion( KKS2)
Thaks,
Rajanikanth

Tabale for Actual cost value for Process orders

Hi Friends
From which table can we retrive the actual values relates to process orderwise, like actual material consumption cost, activites cost, overhead cost and other costs.

Hi
You would find the actual for process orders in Table COEP with Object Number = OP*. Also Check if you would require COSS, COSP for Controlling Tables and to get the Object numbers you need to used AFPO with Order type of Process order PI01...
Regards,
Suraj

Target cost zero in process orders

Target cost is zero in process orders...
I did investigation on the forum and folks have suggested could be standard cost is not released at the time of process order release...
I need help in setting that configuration...
regards

Check if you have released Std cost estimate. If No release it if Yes then check if the process order material is having any GR Qty. Becuase Target costs are planned costs for actual production.

Cost center to Process order

hi
I have consumed some raw material on cost center. I want to allocate the said amount on process orders.
Is there any solution.
regards

Thanks Ashok
You are right.
Actually some material that will be always posted on cost center and at month end we want to post on Process orders not in MM.
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