Cost Center Assessment - cost element type 42

Hi dear All,
I got issues running KSU5 to allocate planned costs under cost element type 42. we were expecting that all planned costs (primary and secondary(cost element type 42)) could be allocated by credit cost center (actual). only primary costs are being allocated.
Scenario:
cost center planning (kp06) 1000 currencies in primary cost element in cost center A
running planning assessment - KSUB: cycle uses assessment cost element (type 42): sender cost center A, receiver cost center B (all planned values). assessment cyles posts 1000 currencies from CC A to cost center B
planning in cost center B (primary cost elements through kp06, 500 currencies) total planning 1000 from previous assessment with CE type 42, and 500 from cc planning in a primari CE.
by the period end closing, tcode KSU5 (allocation actual) is running. new cycle created, based on planned values (origini not actual, but planned amounts).
we were expecting to allocate 1500 currencies from cost center B to cost center C (using 100% and through assessment cost element)).
result: credit actual cost center B = 500 currencies debit actual cost center C = 500 currencies.
1000 currencies pending on cost center B (planned).
do you know why SAP is not allocating the 1000? even if those 1000 were planned in cost center B by assessement, a new allocation cycle should be able to post them or not?
thank you for your outcome.

Hi dear Ajay, thank you for your answer.
first, I understand the difference between KSUB and KSU5, in the defined scenario, we have both. planned values, become actual with the MEC activities. business definition.
regarding the cycle, I have setup assessment cost element so we can get all planned lines posted as 1.
On sender tab I have only the cost center. no cost element defined.
receiver its cost center.
furthermore, i've not setup allocation structure, so all cost elements should be allow, there is no restriction on this.
the only difference is: planned costs which their origin is already an assessment are not being assessed again.
I can show you the print screens with cycles setup if it helps
best regards
MF

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Hi dear Ajay, thank you for your answer.
first, I understand the difference between KSUB and KSU5, in the defined scenario, we have both. planned values, become actual with the MEC activities. business definition.
regarding the cycle, I have setup assessment cost element so we can get all planned lines posted as 1.
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