Cost Center Budget-Cost element wise

Dear SAP Gurus,
My client needs to create cost center budgets cost element wise. For e.g. Salary paid (code 430000) in Development Cost center (code 9901).
We now use KPZ2 to create cost center budgets and KP06 for cost element planning. Kindly guide.
Regards,
Siva

Hi Ramesh,
Thank you for the reply. I did suggest them to use KP06 but they require some sort of validation when posting an expense (cost element) to and cost center.
For e.g. If the travel budget for Marketing cost center is $1000, they need the system to prevent posting once that amount is exceeded.
Any help in this regard would be appreciated.
Regards,
Siva

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It very urgent.
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Hey Chandu,
budgeting is possible in Costcenters. Availability control is not possible. It can be done only for internal orders.
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And this is activated only at internal order level not at cost center level.
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kinldy check the sap note SAP Note 68366 - Active Availability Control for Cost
Centers
Symptom from SAP note as cited above
The standard SAP R/3 System has no active availability control for cost
centers. You can exceed the cost center budget without corresponding
messages
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The SAP R/3 System's active availability control is for individual
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