Cost center for Production Order
Hi all,
We are now not able to get a report of Material consumption cost, Cost center wise. It is Because cost center is not linked to Production order or not linked to material issued to production order. Can we get the cost of material cosumption for production order cost center wise. Please give us a solution.
With Regards,
R.Mahendiran.
Hi,
Prod order is linked with controlling, for the direct costs like material cost linked with accounting view, costing view and secondary costs are linked with costing tab in work center and inturn workcenter is assigned to cost center, and for the prod order controlling part you will be assigned to the costing variant in transaction OPL8, if you remove this you can't get any reports.
To understand the difference
201 - Goods issue against cost center. Means you create reservation through MB21 and do posting of cost directly at cost center.
261 - Goods issue to Production order. Means you create a reservation through Production order and do posting of cost to Production order. When cost settlement of production order is done cost from production order will get transfered to cost center mentioned in settlement rule of production order.
Hope this clarifies your doubt.
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