Cost Center. Position or Org Unit

Hello Every One,
I am learning SAP HCM. Forgive me for this basic questions:
When we create an org structure, are we supposed to assign the cost center to a position or do we do it for an organizational unit? What are the advantages/dis advantages of doing this?
Thanks
Marian Roza

Hello Everyone,
Thanks for the replies. So when we assign the cost center to an org unit, does it imply that all costs for the positions assigned to the org unit would also be captured by the cost center. what is the standard business practice for deciding to go about it ?
Thanks
Marian
Edited by: marian roza on Jan 14, 2008 12:25 PM

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