Cost center v/s Internal Order

Hi
What is the difference between a cost center & Internal Order
Regards
Samir

Hi Samir,
Cost Center is an Organizational unit within a controlling area that represents a clearly delimited location where costs occur. You can make organizational divisions on the basis of functional, settlement-related, activity-related, spatial, and/or responsibility-related standpoints.
Cost Center is a CO Object maintained on long-term basis to capture costs related to particular type of cost based on functionality, nature of cost etc.
An internal order is used to monitor parts of the costs, and under certain circumstances, the revenues of the organization.
Internal Order is a CO Object maintained to capture the costs of specific purpose (like campaigns, events etc) which is of short-term purpose.
Let us understand the difference with the following example...
If you have a Cost Center "HR Department", whenever some expenditure is incurred for HR Dept, that cost will be booked to HR Dept Cost Center.
Let us assume that your company is about to take up a Recruitment Campaign (like campus placements) for about 3 months all over the country.
So, you can create an Internal Order "Recruitment Campaign". The Internal Order can be "Real" and "Statistical".
If you create the Internal Order as a "Real" object, then, at the time of booking the expenses relating to Recruitment Campaign, all costs will flow to the Internal Order and then, costs will be settled to your "HR Department" Cost Center at the period-end.
If you create the Internal Order as a "Statiscal" object, then, at the time of booking the expenses, you can select your "HR Department" Cost Center as well as your "Recruitment Campaign" Internal Order as CO objects. In this case, real postings will happen to Cost Center and statistical postings will happen to Internal Order. There will not be any requirement to settle the Internal Order to Cost Center. Here, this statiscal internal order will be information purposes only...
Hope this is clear, pls revert back for further explanation...
Srikanth Munnaluri

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