Cost component or cost roll-up issue

Hi
This is with reference to new issue that surfaced in costing recently. In the company I am working for cost component structure setup is like this : 1) raw material is considered as variable cost 2) activity as fixed and when it rolls-up cost of semifinished will have both fixed and variable since fixed and variable are active for semifinished and that's way its set up for finished goods.
The above set up was designed based upon existing business process. As per that process raw material is always procured from external vendor. Recently for the one of the new plant the process changed a bit i.e. raw material is manufactured. Now the manufactured and purchased raw material flows to same GL account. With the existing set up the system allowed to create product estimate and PREM cost for both manufactured and purchased raw material. But recently the system started giving an error saying that fixed cost field is not activated for raw material. The error makes sense but we don't understand how it worked before and what triggered this error now.
Did anybody come across this issue?
Thanks
Joseph

Hi,
May be for the material in new plant, you may have some fixed cost , through some activity type etc.. Please check.
You can always change your cost component in OKTZ to allow for fixed cost also. But we careful while doing this , as after this you wont be able to see the pased saved data in cost component view. As based on cost component strcuture SAP alling the cost value field in KEPH table and it fixed and variable are stored in two different vaue field in KEPH.
Regards
Ranjan Kumar

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