Cost elements in COPA assessment cycle

Hi Experts,
I would like to know the following points while interacting with COPA reports
I have sales revenue items and financial expenses item.
How we define the structure for getting these balances into COPA reports. or is it the right way of checking the balances financial expenses with COPA reports which are not a part of production.
Can anybody please give me some inputs how to define the structure or base for getting the copa reports.
Your early replies are most appreciated
Thanks ans Regards,
Ram

Hi
Both have different purpose...
When you allocate - The cost center is credited and COPA (prof Segment) is Debited...
The credit entry is posted to cost center using a secondary cost element (Catg 42)... This is determined from Allocation Str
The Debit entry to COPA is posted/allocated to COPA in a Value Field.... PA Trf Str is the place where you map Cost Ele to Value field.. Upon allocation, the value will flow to the specified value field
Note that in KEU1, you can directly specify "Assessment cost ele" and by pass the Alloc Str
Note that in KEU1, you can directly specify a Value Field and by pass the PA Trf Str
Br, Ajay M

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