Cost model derivation rules error

Hey PS upgraders,
We are upgrading 4.6c to 6.0. When I m uploading the cost model from 4.6c to 6.0 thru CKCM , derivation rules are missing in 6.0.
Does any one come across this kind of issue in 6.0.
Thanks,
Krishna Reddy
Edited by: krishna.gujju on Jun 17, 2010 11:59 PM

Hi guys,
any idea!

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Easy Cost Planning: Calculation Row (Business Process) in Cost Model Derivation Rule

Hi All,
The Requirement:
Using the Cost Model I am able to do up to Sub-Total Value. I tried with Calculation Row (Business Process) in the Cost Model Derivation Rule, but could not succeed.
I tried with Base Planning Object, but the formulas are different for other scenarios. Which require 5 to 6 Base Planning Objects are required to be created to get the total amount for a single line item, in the construction project there will be more than 10,000 line items and it is very difficult to maintain the data and also it is time consuming.
Can you suggest me, how to map the requirement?
Best Regards,
K. Rajendra Prasad Rao

You need to check the following for the material cost to appear in network costing:
1. Check whether costing variant is assigned to the network or not.
2. Check whether costing relevancy indicator is checked in material component assigned to the network.
3. If costing variant exists, check the valuation variant and strategy sequence for material valuation.
4. Go to the material master and see whether price is mentioned or not.
I would suggest you to use Network costing, Also note network costing are recorded in Co version '0' so if you have maintained your ECP for '0' version, there is a chance of both the costing getting added up.
Edited by: Ahmed Rifaee on Mar 28, 2010 10:10 PM

COPA Derivation rule Error Message no. KE0C133

Hi
We have Fiscal Year 2010(April To March) and we are maintaining the derivation rule for the cost center in KEDR
Ane we are facing following error (Cost center validity is maintained from 01.04.2010 To 31.12.9999)
If we maintain validity period in from 01.04.2009 To 31.12.9999, then system is allowing to maintain derivation rule.
What you suggest in this Case ?
Derivation error :
Characteristic value DIC APOPS01DMU does not exist for characteristic COPA_KOSTL (Cost center)
Message no. KE0C133
Diagnosis
The characteristic "COPA_KOSTL" ("Cost center") should be posted to Profitability Analysis (CO-PA). When the system checked the entries, it was established that the transferred characteristic value (" DIC APOPS01DMU") is not valid in CO-PA.
System Response
The data is not consistent and therefore cannot be transferred to CO-PA.
Procedure
With the function Maintain Characteristic Values, you can add characteristic values to those that are valid.
Thanks
Nilesh

Hi,
I understand you are checking derivation rule by transaction KEDR.
When you check Derivation, you can input "Derivation Date" in the bottom of Characteristic Popup screen. Please consider what the system check the validity period for e.g. cost center with using "Derivation Date".
Additionally, for CO-PA planning, please consider that CO version also have "Derivation date".
Hope tis helps.

Easy cost planning - derivation rule

Hi all.
I started using the ECP tool.
Can I using the characteristic derivation , such as we use in CO-PA (KEDR) ?
Can i create a "derivation rule" to decided which value the character received according to character value chosen.
Example .
If I create new character in ECP called "color" and I want to use this formula :
Derivation rule for "color" black = 0.01 , red = 0.5 , white = 8.1 .
Formula : x = "color" * 3 .
Result : "color" = black ==> x = 0.01 * 3 = 0.03
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Beni Kashi

hi..
You could enter the condition in the activation column. if the price is 3000 if X > 1 and 2000 if X < 1. There will be two rows one with price 3000 with activation condition X > 1 and another with price 2000 with activation condition X < 1.
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Error while defining derivation rules in FMDERIVE

We are currently on ECC6. While defining Funds Mgmt .... activated the derivation rules in FMRULES. But when I try to define the derivation rules in FMDERIVE .. I get the following error: Syntax error in program "RFMDERIVE003 ".
Error in the ABAP Application Program
The current ABAP program "SAPMABADR" had to be terminated because it has
come across a statement that unfortunately cannot be executed.
The following syntax error occurred in program "RFMDERIVE003 " in include
"RFMDERIVE003 " in
line 32:
"The Dictionary structure or table "FMDERIVE003" is either not active o"
"r does not exist."
The include has been created and last changed by:
Created by: "SAP "
Last changed by: "SAP* "
Error in the ABAP Application Program
The current ABAP program "SAPMABADR" had to be terminated because it has
come across a statement that unfortunately cannot be executed.
How can the same be rectified. Kindly help.
Thanx
Shivaji

Hi,
Check the OSS note Note 644974 - Syntax error in program RFMXPR47. Looks like table FMDERIVE is missing.
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Sanjay

"Error occurred in derivation rule" & "No commitment item entered in item".

Unable to create Purchase Request (PR) and the following error message shows
"Error occurred in derivation rule. See Long Text"
Diagnosis
Fund From Commitment Item
No entry in a derivation rule was found for the specified source fields.
The derivation rule was set up that an error message appears when this happens.
The required derivation rule entry would need the following source fields:
Commitment Item
xxxxxxx
Procedure:
Create an entry in a derivation rule for these source field values. Make sure that entries exist for all the valid source field values. If the derivation should not always be carried out, you can also define rule so that no error message appears if a derivation rule entry does not exist.
Can any one help how to find out the root cause of the error and solve this issue
Regards,
GB

I was able to duplicate your error by creating the following.
I went to transaction FMDERIVE and created a derivation rule and named it "Fund From Commitment Item".
On the definition tab, I selected committment item (COMMIT_ITEM) for the source field and the target field selected (FUND).
The condition tab was left blank. NOTE: On the attribute tab I selected the option "Issue Error Warning If No Value Found).
I entered no rule values (F9) within the rule (for example such as commitment item XXXXXXX = fund YYYYY) and saved.
After creating this derivation rule, I get the same error message because there were no values in the derivation rule (the source commitment item used was not found in the rule).
If Fund is a field that is always keyed manually then I would not have such a derivation rule.
But you may have some exceptions (like we do) and in the case of exceptions you can populate the derivation rule with those exceptions... i.e. whenever commitment item XXXX is used then the fund should be equal to YYYY further using your conditions and attributes for your custom needs.

Error occurred in derivation rule. See long text ; Message no. K/110

I am facing the below error when posting document in FI
Error occurred in derivation rule. See long text
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Diagnosis
    Step 0166 5400: Profit Center in Inventory Posting
    No derivation rule entry was found for the specified source values valid
    on 02.04.2014.
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    when this occurs.
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     Product Group
Procedure
     Create a rule entry for these source values and make sure that rule
     entries exist for all the source values.
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     displayed if a rule entry is missing.
     Maintain entries
     Maintain derivation strategy
In KEDE:
In KEDR:
Please help me what might be the reason.

Hi Thanga,
I don't think this is the right group to ask questions relevant to Controlling-Profitability Analysis.
otherwise, it seems in your 'Characteristic Derivation/ Display Rule values' you are missing an argument 'to Product Group', therefore the system gives you this error 'The system could not find a rule entry valid..'.
hope this will help you.
Kind regards,
Renatas

Error occurred in derivation rule

Dear All,
After saving the billing document, & it is not realesed to A/c. Document.My client came across the following error;
Error occurred in derivation rule. See long text
Message no. K/111
CO-PA Characteristic Derivation
Diagnosis
Step 0031 Category --> Item Category Dummy
No entry in a derivation rule was found for the specified source fields.
The derivation rule was set up so that an error message appears when this happens.
The required derivation rule entry would need the following source fields:
Customer
31970063
Procedure
Create an entry in a derivation rule for these source field values. Make sure that entries exist for all the valid source field values. If the derivation should not always be carried out, you can also define a derivation rule so that no error message appears if a derivation rule entry does not exist.
Maintain entries
Maintain derivation strategy
Waiting for the response.
Thanks & Regards,
SPT

Hi,
Check value fields assigned to each condition types and take a help of FICO consultant.
Use this link to understand what configuration steps need to be taken accross.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/7a/4c38e14a0111d1894c0000e829fbbd/content.htm
Thanks,
Swamy H P

Error occurred in derivation rule in SAP

Hi All
i am trying to post the document as well to create the new PR i am getting the below error messge as
'Error occurred in derivation rule. See long text
Message no. K/101
Diagnosis
: Fund From Commitment Item
No entry in a derivation rule was found for the specified source fields.
The derivation rule was set up so that an error message appears when this happens.
The required derivation rule entry would need the following source fields:
Commitment Item
350801
Procedure
Create an entry in a derivation rule for these source field values. Make sure that entries exist for all the valid source field values. If the derivation should not always be carried out, you can also define a derivation rule so that no error message appears if a derivation rule entry does not exist.

Hi Krishguna,
You need to check your derivation rule, T. Code: FMDERIVE for Fund then activate the trace, this will help you why fund is not deriving from commitment item, or tell us the detail of derivation for fund you have set.
Thanks
Javed

Error occurred in derivation rule. See long text, Message no. ABADR100,

Hi
I am making some testing and I have the following message , which is about the functional area. I did not use the FM derive:
Error occurred in derivation rule. See long text
Message no. ABADR100
Diagnosis
SAP - Original Generic 4.7 Ver: Funded Program fro
No derivation rule entry was found for the specified source values valid on 22.06.2011.
The derivation rule was defined so that an error message is displayed when this occurs.
The system could not find a rule entry valid on 22.06.2011 for the following source fields:
Financial Management Area/Functional Area
Z001/6000
Procedure
Create a rule entry for these source values and make sure that rule entries exist for all the source values.
If you do not want the derivation to be performed in every instance, you can also change the derivation rule so that no error message is displayed if a rule entry is missing.
please help

Hi Thanga,
I don't think this is the right group to ask questions relevant to Controlling-Profitability Analysis.
otherwise, it seems in your 'Characteristic Derivation/ Display Rule values' you are missing an argument 'to Product Group', therefore the system gives you this error 'The system could not find a rule entry valid..'.
hope this will help you.
Kind regards,
Renatas

Error ocurred in the derivation rule

Hi Guys
I am trying to create a sales order. But having this error
(error ocurred in the derivation rule) Msg no. K/111
How do I fix this please.
Thanks

Hi
The error desciption means that the issue is in the derivation rules for the source fields.
No entry in a derivation rule was found for the specified source fields.
The derivation rule was set up so that an error message appears when this happens.The required derivation rule entry would need the missing source fields.
Please click on the error message which should give you the missing source fields list. Maintain configuration in tcode KEDE and KEDR for the these fields and save,
Let me know if there are any issues. Hope this helps.
Karthik

KEDR - Testing Newly added Cost Element to Derivation Rule

Hi There -
Background: We have Column in COPA KE30 report - 3BOXID. This field is updated with Blank and the reason we found is cost element is missing in dervation rule and we added the respective cost element to Derivation Rule
Can you please help me in testing this
Thanks
Sri

Hi,
Basically i understand that you wish to have HR posting to COPA
Please take a look at attached note 130344.
Basically according to the note there are 2 options:
1. The update of data from the Payroll in Controlling should be carried out in the standard system to the cost center. The actual commissions posted to cost center can then be posted to Profitability Analysis by assessment.
2. If you assign the relevant account via the automatic account assignment in transaction OKB9 to profitability segment a costing-based CO-PA document should be created for the postings of transaction PCP0. The profitability segment determined should only be filled rather scarcely though as not much information is available in this case.
regards
Waman

Error in derivation rule when posting vendor's invoice against int. order

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I am trying to post an invoice using FB60 against an internal order. I get the message 'Errror in derivation rule' (ABADR01). The long message states 'No entry in a derivation rule was found for the specified source fields.'.
Why do I see this message, and what can I do to correct the situation?
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Eli

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i have made characteristic court fee ,in currency format
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I am SD consultant, i wrote this issue on SD forum also, but it is related to FICO.
Please send me solution with complete path.
When i create a new sals order and click enter, a small screen open and message displayed on it "Error occured in Derivation Rule, Seee long text"
And when try to save sales order in display incompletion log. When i press on edit to complete it message diaplay " Item 10 ... Missing data- Profitability Segment No.
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I ckeck the transaction code /nKEDR there which entry i should select and in type of prfatibity Which one i should select Costing based or Accounting based.
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