Cost object Hierarchy nodes

Actually I need to change profit center in cost object node but does not allow changes, do you have some suggestion?

Hi,
Once u assign profit center in Cost Object before values posting system allow u do changes. Once u made postings against Cost Object System not allows you for Change Profit Center.
For the do one thing Create new cost object with proper Profit center and settle ur old Cost Object to New cost object.
Thanks
PBR

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Assignment of Materials to Cost Object Nodes in Cost Object Hierarchy

We have defined a Cost Object Hierarchy. In the Cost Object Hierarchy , there are multiple cost object nodes. These cost object node represents each Prodcution line.
There is a requirement that any material can be produced in any production line.
The issue I am facing is if I am assiging one material to one Production line, and again if I am trying to assign the same material to other production line, the system is not allowing me to assign it.
How Can I resolve this issue.
kindly help.
regards

Hi
Ideally, each prod line should be represented by a Production Version in PP... You can assign a combination of Material + Prod Version to each Cost Obj Node... You cant assign just a Material No to more than 1 node
The Prod Version Field might appear in Grey Mode.. But, it will allow you to select the Prod Version in that Field....
You can also use BADI workorder_update to check while creating production order that the Prod Version being used in the Prod Order must be assigned to Cost Obj Node... Cost Obj Nodes are stored in the table CKPE
br, Ajay M

Error in Distribution of Actual cost in Cost Object Hierarchy

Hi,
I am getting an error while doing the Distribution of Actual cost from Cost Object Node to the assigned Order.
Cost element/origin 630000 could not be distributed
Message no. KZ468
Diagnosis
The cost element/ origin 630000 could not be distributed because there are no target costs for this cost element/origin or for cost element group CO-PC-TOT.
Procedure
Check the calculated target costs and cost element group CO-PC-TOT assigned to the target cost version.
Procedure for System Administration
Proceed
Although the Cost element is Present in cost element group CO-PC-TOT.
One more information, the order that is assigned in Cost Object Hierarchy is of CO-Product orders.
I have searched in the forum but I havent got any solution.
Kindly help.
regards
Kami

Hi,
Concerning error message KZ 468, it has the following origin: In the customizing of the cost object category (transaction okz5), check if the 'single object selection' is set to 'Control through variance key'. If you consider the F1-Help for this option you will find the following explanation:
if the indicator Control through variance key is turned on, the production order, process order, or product cost collector can only be assigned to the cost object hierarchy if:
-> The material is assigned to the lowest node of the hierarchy
-> No variance key is specified in the order
The important point is, that orders that have a variance key are excluded from the cost distribution.
In transaction KKF8 you will find that all these orders do indeed have a variance key. Hence, all of these orders are included, there are no target costs from the orders and the costs cannot be distributed. Thus the error message kz 468.
Please consider that and check the customizing again.
Not having target costs in the distribution indicates either a wrong set up of the hierarchy or, more likely, no valid cost estimate for a certain material of a production order or product cost collector could be found.
Did you check whether for this cost element/origin target costs exist, and also for the cost element group? If not the message KZ468 is correct and probably the cost element group has to be maintained properly.
The distribution of actual costs calculates target costs on-the-fly and the variance calculation does not have to be carried out before. Quite the opposite than the variance calculation requires the distribution as a preceding step. Furthermore it is not sufficient that one cost element is in a cost element group but the interval where the cost element has been assigned to has to have some target costs. Otherwise this won't work and message KZ468 is issued.
regards
Waman

Data collection for cost object hierarchy - no data at order level!

Hi everyone,
When using transaction KKP6 to see my hierarchy for cost object, the system displays all the values that are allocated on my hierarchy nodes, but I do not have the values that should come from the production orders (repetitive manufacturing with production version).
I use transaction KKRZ to collect data for cost object hierarchy, but it seems that the system does not retrieve any information from the orders.
Would someone know about this point customizing steps to follow to retrieve my orders values?
Thanks in advance for your answer. Rewards guaranteed!
Ronan

Hi Amadeus,
To do so, I have used transaction OKZ5 in the customizing and ticked "always cost object hierarchy" and "distribution".
By doing so, you enable the system to distribute costs within a cost hierarchy. Otherwise the system will only determine costs on the hierarchy.
Try this, it may work for you as well. During your period-end closing, you sould now use "cost object hierarchy" instead of product cost collector.
Regards,
Ronan

Flat file upload against Cost Center Hierarchy nodes

Hi,
we would like to upload flat files into BIIP which need to contain values for cost center hierarchy nodes.
Is there a way to add the cost center hierarchy node value into a flat file and upload it inot BIIP?
Thanks and regadrs,
Hans.

Hello Hans,
you can post the value agaist any node as long as it is a postable node (not a text node).
Regards
Marc
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The performance of Distribution of Cost Object Hierarchy Costs.

Dear SAP Gurus.
I am checking the function and the performance about Cost Object Hierarchies distribution with Control Through Variance Key.
The number of production orders assigned to COH is about 100,000 per month.
All orders will be closed at current month and new 100,000 production order will be assigned to COH at next month.
My concern is about performance of Distribution of Cost Object Hierarchy Costs
because a huge number of orders will be accumulatedly assigned to the Cost Object Hierarchies.
I think that the COH will be distributed with not bad performance.
(Actually I want that to be OK.)
What's your opinion about that?
Sincerely.
Mahnkwi.

Hi Mahnkwi,
Sender-/receiver-relations should definitely be below 1:1000 or even below 1:500. This depends on other factors like general size of the hierarchy and data to be processed as well. This hierarchy needs to be restructured. In case you do this the
distribution needs to be reversed first.
Below are some other hints on performance in KKPX
- Parallel processing should be used.(note [386508|https://css.wdf.sap.corp/sap(bD1lbiZjPTAwMQ==)/bc/bsp/spn/sapnotes/index2.htm?numm=0000386508])
- Switch off detail lists since the consume lots of memory.
- Old orders should be archived.
Note [77718|https://css.wdf.sap.corp/sap(bD1lbiZjPTAwMQ==)/bc/bsp/spn/sapnotes/index2.htm?numm=0000077718] also explains tips to avoid the memory error for transaction KKPX or KKPY. As note explains, you should consider
whether a distribution of the cost elements according to their origin is required; if not, the corresponding indicator should not be set in the costing view of the materials.
If many error message is issued in the error log, this may have bad effect on the memory of your server. In this case, you should make these error message "not to be displayed" by message control in IMG.
Regards,
Declan

BAPI/IDOC to create cost object hierarchy or category

Hi,
Can any one give me the BAPI or Basic type to create cost object hierarchy(tcoce KKPHIE)
Kind regards,
Sujith

Hi,
Following are the BAPIS
1079
BAPI_COSTOBJECT_GETDETAIL
BAPI_COSTOBJECT_GETLIST
BAPI_COSTOBJNODE_GETDETAIL
BAPI_COSTOBJNODE_GETHIERAR
BAPI_COSTOBJNODE_GETLIST
Hope this Helps
Thanks
Ravi

Trx KKPHIE: assigning single objects to cost objects hierarchy through BDC

Is there a way to assign single object to cost object hierarchy.
The ALV TREE button "Assignmnet single objs on/off" does not seem to trigger an OKCODE since it is managed in the abap object (class).
Is there is way to make a BDC. Or other ways to enter that data in BG, like a BAPI.
- Tried the BDC recorder without success
- Did not find a BAPI
- Did not find anything interesting in SWO1 business object BUS2076.
Any clue ?

Ok, we found the solution. Simply use the old transaction "KKP2" instead of "KKPHIE"

Mass Material Assignment to Cost Object Hierarchy

Hi,
I have to assign the materials to Cost Object Hierarchy. I know that it is done thorugh TC- KKPHIE.
But if I have to assign more than 1000 materials at a time , I cannot do that in mass.
I tried to do it thorugh LSMW. The system is not allowing it to create LSMW.
I am stuck. Please let me know is there any other method of material assignment in mass.
Or any other transaction code.
Hoping to hear

Hi Ravi,
I have tried using LSMW and BDC. Its not working.
Is there any other transcation of material Assignment to Cost Object Hierarchy.
regards
Kami

Report on Cost Object Hierarchy

Hi Guys,
My user needs a report for ACtuals cost based on Cost Object Hierarchies.
ACtual cost dat is in a cube. But that cube does not have COst Object as Charachetristic.
How can I do that?
Any suggestions

SOlved

Distribution of Price difference value to Other Cost Objects in Hierarchy

Hi,
I have a unique scenario for one of my client.
Here we are using Cost Object Hierarchy for Cost Object Controlling. We have Two COH for Billets and Wire Rods.
The Input for Billets production are Raw Materials and Input for Wire Rod Production are the Billets.
Each Billet grade is consumed for the Specific Wire Rod Grade.
At the end of the Month we do the settlement and we get the Price difference value of the Billets. We can also know the Per unit Price difference value.
Now we want to send this Price difference per unit value of the Billets to the Wire Rod Production orders according to the quanity of Billets consumed.
We are not using ML.
I am not getting any idea how to Proceed for thsi scenario.
Any suggestion please.
Regards
Kami

Hi
W/o ML, you cant achieve this...
if your Prod process is farily stable and qty variances are not much i.e. the only major reason for variances are the prices - Then you can adopt this workaround
Re: sfg and FG @ MAP
br, Ajay M

Campaign creation : selecting a busines partner then hierarchy node

Hello
In MSA 4 SP8, while creating a Campaign, if I first select the Client Type as "Business Partner" then change to "Hierarchy Node", when I save it tells me that the Business Partner field is not correct, though I told it to choose the other option (which was correctly filled).
I believe it is the fact that the BP object persists, how can I force the system to ignore it if I don't need it ? (or, destroy it so it is not even checked)
Thanks and Regards,
François

I am working in 2004s as well (SP11) and I am trying to do the same type of thing.
I have multiple cost center hieriarchies that the user can choose from at run-time using the hierachy variable.
Then once the user chooses to the hierarchy they then should go choose a specific node that they want to run for in that hierarchy using the Cost Center Hierarchy Node variable (using the hierarchy variable, not fixed hierarchy).
When I run this in the web I am allowed to choose one of the multiple cost center hierarchies... this means that the hierarchy variable is working, however when i go to choose the specific cost center node for that hierarchy it uses the defult cost center hierarchy instead of the one selected in the selection screen.
If anyone can shed some light on this it would be greatly appreciated.
Aaron

Hierarchy Node Sheets

Hello again,
I am looking for a function module or snippet whereby I can create a list of Hierarchy nodes sheets from a "Cost Center Hierarchy node" as input. please help.
Thanks,
sebastian

At the outset, i am not very clear about ur Q.
but u may try these codes in R/3, which will give u the hierarchy structure
KSB1, KSH3, KS03
Not sure, how much it can help, but give it a try.

Authorisation Error - Hierarchy Node

Hi All,
I have the following error when I try to run a report, there are madatory fields on the variable screen for Cost Centre Hierachy & Cost Element Hierarchy. When using BEx Analyser I can enter passed this error message & the report will display results, however when I use the Portal, a different error message appears.
I need this report to run successfully in the Portal, please can you help
BEx ANALYSER ERROR MESSAGE
Diagnosis
The system has determined the authorized areas (nodes) for the characteristic and the hierarchy (,). It also determined that you do not have authorization for any of these areas.
System Response
If this situation was determined while a variable was being filled, the query cannot be executed or the hierarchy is not displayed.
Procedure
You have to have authorization for at least one node or leaf for the characteristic and the hierarchy (,) so that something can be displayed.
If the selection only comprises end nodes ("leaves") and all of these leaves are covered by value authorizations, a query result is still displayed.
Procedure for System Administration
PORTAL ERROR MESSAGE
WARNING EYE (019): No authority for the node from characteristic ASCH407D, hierarchy YIR BI-KPIGRP (00000000,)
MSGV1: ASCH407D
MSGV2: YIR BI-KPIGRP
MSGV3: 00000000
ABEND RSBOLAP (000): Program error in class SAPMSSY1 method : UNCAUGHT_EXCEPTION
MSGV1: SAPMSSY1
MSGV3: UNCAUGHT_EXCEPTION
& it will not display results

Hi,
Using the T-code SU01 check what are the authorization do you have. Identify the authorization which is related to cost center/cost element. In the T-code PFCG check if that authorization includes that cost center/cost element hierarchy node or not?
In order that query should run in Portal, relevant authorization must be transported to portal.
Hope it helps.
Regards,
Prakash

Hierarchy Node Variable not working

Hello,
I created two variable one being Hierarchy Node variable and other Hierarchy variable.
I am using this for the Internal order hierarchy.
I amd also working on 2004s and not 3.5 version.
I restricted the Internal order and then selected the variable and then selected the nodes and before moving the Nodes variable, I also selected the Variable for the Hierarchy and then moved the Node variable to the right screen.
When I run the report, the option for the selecting the Hierarchy appears and I selected the correct Hierarchy, but when I go to the Hierarchy Node variable, I do not see the Nodes for that Hierarchy I selected in the first variable and it always like a fixed value Hierarchy defaults to the first Hierarchy. Hence I am unable to select the node to execute the report.
I would appreciate any ones feedback.
Thanks
Sundar

I am working in 2004s as well (SP11) and I am trying to do the same type of thing.
I have multiple cost center hieriarchies that the user can choose from at run-time using the hierachy variable.
Then once the user chooses to the hierarchy they then should go choose a specific node that they want to run for in that hierarchy using the Cost Center Hierarchy Node variable (using the hierarchy variable, not fixed hierarchy).
When I run this in the web I am allowed to choose one of the multiple cost center hierarchies... this means that the hierarchy variable is working, however when i go to choose the specific cost center node for that hierarchy it uses the defult cost center hierarchy instead of the one selected in the selection screen.
If anyone can shed some light on this it would be greatly appreciated.
Aaron

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