Cost object Sales Order
Hello All,
We are currently in the design fase for cost object/element controlling . We are looking into business content and notice that there appears to be no datasource for extracting data for cost object sales order. We are considering custom datasource on COVP.
Does anyone have an alternative? We need this data from the CO documents.
Best regards,
Almar
HI Almer
Did you checked the datasource 0CO_OM_CCA_40, it extracts data from COVP
Below are the details from SAP Help
This DataSource contains information on the actual costs that were posted to cost centers. These costs could have been posted to the cost centers as primary cost postings or internal allocations.
The system identifies the costs of a cost center in object currency in records with 0CURTYPE = 10 (company code currency). (See also SAP Note 367738.)
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/b2/a4e5c536054c0bb7df9f6c22667694/frameset.htm
Regards,
sathya
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Two cost objects Sales order , OKB9 business area +order
Hi All,
While posting intercompany IR system thronging below error messageu2026
Enter only one true account assignment
Message no. KI249
Diagnosis
You made assignments to several objects in CO (cost center, order, project etc.). 2 of these have been created as true objects.
System Response
You are allowed only one account assignment for each cost-relevant account.
What we found in our system:
Conflict: Actual Sales Order 3487909 is linked to PO via account assignment category 4& IC dummy sales order (OKB9 config Business area 3000 + order 807898 assigned.
Due Two cost objects cannot be linked to one IR G/L account booking.
What is the best solution for this to post Intercompany IR with conflict two cost objects.
Regards,
AdiHi All,
we facing an issue with sales order cost objective vs OKB9 cost object.
For IC PO service material, we assigned account assignment category 4.Reasonis Service material was not showing on G\R account.
The G\L account 7898788, we assigned to Service Item (material type DIEN) , for G\Cost 7898788 cost element is assigned in OKB9. Combination business + order 3478787.
Now conflict with sales order cost objective vs OKB9 internal order cost object.
While posting intercompany IR posting system thronging below error messageu2026
Enter only one true account assignment
Message no. KI249
Diagnosis
You made assignments to several objects in CO (cost center, order, project etc.). 2 of these have been created as true objects.
System Response
You are allowed only one account assignment for each cost-relevant account
How to resolve this issue.. Do I make any config changes in the system to overcome this issue?
Or any sub account to assinment in VKOA config for internal orderu2026
Regards,
Adi -
Product cost by sales order with Valuated Sales order stock
Hi Gurus,
I am working on Poduct cost by Sales Order with Valuated stock. but i have doubt ragarding to Cost estimation.
1.In sales order scenario also Standard Cost estiamtion (CK11n and CK24) and Marking, Releasing is Mandatory? if not how can we estimate the cost?
2. If we are estimating the cost by using Standard Cost estimate, when can we estimate the cost?
can anybody please give me the steps which we are following in Poduct cost by Sales Order with Valuated stock from starting to end Settlement
Thanks&Regards
PrasadHi,
there are 3 types of scenarios in MTO.
In Two scenarios Sale Order would be cost object - (Non-Valuated Sale orders stock and Valuated Sale Order stock with Sale order being Cost Object)
In third scenario (Valuated Sale Order Stock without Sale Order controlling), Only Production Order is the Cost Object.
In all the cases wherever the Sale Order is the cost object, Sale Order is the final Receiver. Only the difference is that in valuated sale order stock, stock entries would be passed to FI and in non-valuated sale order, no goods movement for FG will be there.
Please let me know if you need further details in this regard
Surya -
Producrt Cost by Sales Order with Valuated Stock
Hi Gurus,
My client is having Producrt Cost by Sales Order with Valuated Sales Order Stock. Can anybody reply me for my following issues.
1. while calculating Sales order cost estimate thru VA02 , the same Cost estimate is appearing against with EK02 condition type in Sales order Condotions. what is the use of Sales order Cost estimate? is there any impact on production?
2. What is Difference between Sales Order Cost Estimate and Order BOM Cost estimate?
3.when can we calculate Sales Order Cost estimate ? whether before Production or before billing ? can anybody tell me please..
4.while settling the production order also system picking the cost in VPRS not in EK02, i am not sure about this step.can any body correct if i am wrong
5.I know we can caluculate WIP in Sales order also. when can we calculate ? before settling the Production order or after production ?
thanks
PrasadHi,
there are 3 types of scenarios in MTO.
In Two scenarios Sale Order would be cost object - (Non-Valuated Sale orders stock and Valuated Sale Order stock with Sale order being Cost Object)
In third scenario (Valuated Sale Order Stock without Sale Order controlling), Only Production Order is the Cost Object.
In all the cases wherever the Sale Order is the cost object, Sale Order is the final Receiver. Only the difference is that in valuated sale order stock, stock entries would be passed to FI and in non-valuated sale order, no goods movement for FG will be there.
Please let me know if you need further details in this regard
Surya -
Sales order costing - tracking of actual costs at sales order item level
Hi
We are going with sales order costing for services
Service material is non-valuated hence the scenario is non-valuated sales order stock
PP module is not implemented.
I am having following questions
1. How to track the actual costs at sales order item level? Is Internal order/CO production order is required to be created for the same?
2. Can I do activity confirmations directly from cost center to sales order item.
3. Can Raw material is issued directly against sales order item.
4. Is Sales order is a real or statistical account assignment object?dear friend,
please look here:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/EN/42/d7248ab27111d19e9a080009b0db33/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/EN/90/ba6cfb446711d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
reagrds, -
Product costing valuated sales order stock
Hi all,
We are in complex mfg & currently re-vamping all the ERP SAP instances ( totalling 13 company codes into one single)
All 13 units( who use NON Valuated scenarios for cost object controlling) wil use valuated sales orders & projects. The old 13 companies will be trated as profit centers with transfer pricing functionality ( Multiple valuations)
My issue is to get a product cost for sales order in <b>profit center view</b> ( plan cost) exactly same as to the marked standard cost itemisation of the FERT material.
We mark & release the std cost in Jan & the client wants to have the same itemisation of the cost ( with same values) even if they create a sales order in 2nd or 3rd or last quarter. ( As you might be knowing that the sales order wil always cal;culate the values as per the current qty structure date. In Std SAP date control, there is nothing which allows us to cost exactly the same cost estimate as marked & released in JAn)
Could somebody pls give pointers as how to get this sales order plan cost itemisation exactly equal to prevously marked & released itemisation ?
We use the Std costing variant ( Costing Type = Profit center valuation) with Std date control.
Thanks in advance to all of you,
Warm Regards
DhirajHi,
If the sales order stock is valuated, you have immediate access to its value in Financial Accounting. The assigned accounts are debited and credited as a result of the valuated goods movements. From the viewpoint of MRP, the sales order stock is available for the sales order only.
If the sales order stock is not valuated, it is managed via a cost collector. The system does not carry out invoice verification postings for goods movements, and you cannot obtain an overview of how the stock is valuated until the end of the settlement period in Controlling.
Valuated sales order stocks have the following advantages:
The full costs are available at each manufacturing level.
All goods movements are immediately reflected in Financial Accounting
Assign points if helpful
Regards,
Saurabh -
Collect cost against sales order / sales order item
Dear All
Is it possible to collect costs against sales order or sales order item.
The cost is no.of hours the employee booked time against sales order / sales order item.
Regards
Deepu PillaiHi,
Yes. The Sales Order Item can be made cost object to collect the cost. But your requirement is to charge the customer for the no of hours employee worked on that sales order. Through condition type, you can book the expenditure and invoice the customer accordingly. It is purely SD area.
Trust this helps much!
Cheers! -
System status REL is active , Message no. BS013,CO88 COST-BY-SALES-ORDER
Hi Experts,
I meet error when i do the production order settlement"CO88" ,
Which the production mode is cost-by-sales-order undifferentiated mode.
the error information as bellow:
System status REL is active (ORD XXXXX)
Message no. BS013
Diagnosis
Object ORD XXXXXX has system status REL (Released). According to this status, transaction 'settelemtn' is not allowed.
Procedure
You can only carry out the requested function if this is allowed according to the status of the object.
Pls. Help in resolving.
Best Regards,Dear Szymon and Mukthar,
Fisrtly,Thank you for your help!
I have changed the status "TECO"(the status is "TECO PCNF DLV PRC GMPS MANC SETC"),then I settlement the production order.
The system still error:
"Debit from actual settlement" not allowed (Sys. status REL, object VB0000000015000010)
Message no. BS051
Diagnosis
The status check for the status object VB0000000015000010 indicated that the procedure "Debit from actual settlement" cannot be performed because Sys. status REL forbids it.
System Response
Procedure "Debit from actual settlement" is not performed.
Procedure
If procedure "Debit from actual settlement" is to be performed, the Sys. status REL of object VB0000000015000010 must be reset.
Other statuses than Sys. status REL can also prevent the procedure. This message does not tell you all statuses which currently prevent procedure "Debit from actual settlement".
Regards!
Gang.Tian
remark:
I use the MTO mode, the receiver of settlement is SALES ORDER.(the settlement rule is SDI) -
Business Content for Product Cost by Sales Order
Hi,
We need to do reporting on costs associated to Sales Orders. The corresponding R/3 Area is "Product Cost by Sales Order" in Cost Object Controlling. We have looked at the standard cube for Cost Object Controlling (0PC_C01) but this cube only contain costs related to manufacturing orders, whereas we need to look at costs associated with sales orders after Result Analysis.
Have you guys any ideas which content that might support this, if any?
Many thanks!
/ DavidHi Christian,
please refer to SAP Note 584791: <a href="https://websmp208.sap-ag.de/~form/handler?_APP=01100107900000000342&_EVENT=REDIR&_NNUM=0000584791&nlang=E">BW-BCT-CO: Costs not extracted on sales orders</a>.
Unfortunately there's no DataSource providing the data you need for your analysis scenario. A custom development is needed (<i>awful!!</i>)
<b>Note 584791 - BW-BCT-CO: Costs not extracted on sales orders</b>
<b>Symptom</b>
In R/3, costs are posted directly to sales orders. The costs have to be analyzed in the BW system. In the standard system, however, this data is not extracted into the BW system.
<b>Other terms</b>
0CO_OM_OPA_1; 0CO_OM_OPA_6
<b>Solution</b>
1. There are currently no DataSources for costs on sales orders in the standard BW Business Content. Unfortunately, there are currently no resources scheduled for a new development in this area either.
2. Therefore, the DataSources and the Business Content must be created in the customer project within the framework of consulting as a customer solution concerning the generic extraction options of the BW Service APIs or function modules you have programmed yourself for extracting data.
3. Technical background information about costs on sales orders:
The transaction data is available in the following R/3 tables
COSS and COSP - Totals records or COEP - Line items.
This concerns records for the VB* object numbers.
The master data of the sales orders is contained in the VBAK and VBAP tables.
The 0CO_OM_OPA_1 and 0CO_OM_OPA_6 DataSources only extract costs for orders with master data in the AUFK table. These types of requests always have OR* object numbers. Therefore, these DataSources cannot be used for sales orders.
However, you may be able to assign requests from the AUFK table (for example, maintenance orders or production orders) to a sales order through the AUFK-KDAUF table field. -
ADDDITIVE COST FOR PRODUCT COST BY SALES ORDER SCENARIO.
Dear friends,
We are using costing for sales order & we have maintained the costing variant under the path IMG> Controlling> Product Cost Controlling> cost object controlling> Product cost by sales order >premliminary costing & order based costing>product costing for sales order costing>Costing variant for Product costing >Check costing variant for product costing.
Under this we have maintained the Costing variant, Now we need to have Additive cost. But didnt found the tab in the costing variant where as when we check in T.code OKKN which is a part of Product cost planning we can find the Additive cost tab.
How to run addtive costing run for Product cost by sales order scenario & please guide me with one example.
Or else is there any configuration where we can assign standard costing variant PPC1 instead of Costing variant SOC1 ( which is a costing variant of Product cost by sales order.
Please guide me
regards,
SandeepHi Sandeep,
You may please try using Unit Costing for Sale Order.
It is over an above the sale order costing you have done. So in case you want to post any additional known cost, you may do the unit costing for the sale order after the sale order costing.
Trust this helps -
Product cost by sales order - conceptual clarity required
Hi,
We are a manufacturing company with both Make to Stock and Make to Order Scenarios. In cost object controlling, we have made the settings for product cost by order. Now, the question is whether product cost by sales order is a mandatory setting in MTO scenario. I understand this is a conceptual question but i never got the clarity after reading help files, threads and blogs.
I'll put down my understanding - pls correct me.
If i do the product cost by sales order, there will be a statistical cost object ie sales order. Now every cost incurred (with a component split) will be recorded stastically in the sales order in case of production orders created from S.O.s
If I don't do the setting i cannot get a component wise split for the cost of sales order to do any analyses. but still I'll have the COGS which i'll capture to COPA and take the profitability.
Can you please give me some more clarity on this scenario? Are there any other factors/ advantages/mandates in product cost by sales order?
Best Regards
VimalHi Vimal
Prod Cost by SO is done in the case of MTO.. Here, you have 3 possible scenarios
A. Only Qty i.e. GR from Prod order is tagged to Sales Order.. Sales order is not a CO Object....
This scenario is as good as MTS... Only that GR is tagged to SO....
Your costs are collected on Prod order....
PGI uses GBB-VAX i.e. does not post to sales order... Billing updates revenue and COGS to costing based COPA
B. SO is cost obj with non valuated stock (SAP recommends this)
C. SO is cost obj with valuated stock...
B -
Prod Order is settled upon sales order.. GR from prod order does not update any acc doc
Sales order is settled to COPA.. Here you can use a PA Trf Str where in you have replicated your Cost Comp Str... i.e. You can create as many assignment lines in KEI1 as your CCS in OKTZ and assign each one of them to a separtae value field
No question of variances in this case
C
Prod order is not settled upon sales order.... GR from Prod order updates acc doc.... However, variance from prod order can be settled to the sales order if you create variance account as a cost element... Else, it is settled to COPA
Upon PGI, the COGS is posted to Sales Order as a single line item
Here, in your PA Trf Str, you would create an Assignment line and tick "Qty Billed/Delivered".... This would update the Billing Qty to COPA upon settlement of Sales order
This Qty update will trigger KE4R.... i.e. You need to assign CCS to VF in KE4R for PV=01 and Rec Type = C.... This would update the CCS in COPA as per the Sales Order cost estimate
The Costing Key in KE40 should refer to "Sales order cost estimate" and not "Std Cost estimate"
br, Ajay M -
How to keep the same cost in Sales order and return order?
Hi experts,
When I create a sales order with item cost 100 USD.
Then the cost of item changed and down to 90 USD.
When I do goods return refer to the sales order. How can I keep the same cost (VPRS) 100 USD but not 90 USD?
I made a test the cost in sales order is 100 USD but 90 USD in return sales order.
I want the cost in return sales order is 100 USD.
How can I do?
Thanks,
LanceHi,
Let me tell u my understanding of your requirement, after the sales the cost of the item is changed to some thing low than it was in sales order or invoice, in this scenario you need to transfer the cost of the material as it is in the sale order or invoice (which you are taking as reference to create a Return Order), am i right?
If so, you can proceed like this.
In the copy controls of Billing to Sales orders ( F2 to RE) we have the pricing type N assigned to it ( Transfer pricing components unchanged, New Cost) here the system is reading the change of the cost again from the material master. if you don' t want it to read the material master data again we can have a change try with pricing type 'D' (Copy Pricing elements unchanged), and try now.
let me know the result.
hope this will solve your problem. -
dear sir
i check with abaper ,he says the value is updated from sale order
they get the consumption of sales using customized transaction
actual cost is zero
user create the material master withot pricing
we ask to update the material master and they do the costing run
in material master standard costing estimate found
after they run the consumption report ,once again actual cost is zero
i chech\ked in costing status using CK11N ,std cost estimate found
is it possible to update the cost in sales order
(redetermine or recalculate the pricng in sale order)
so that my consumpotion report will update
thanksHi,
Check the following link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/90/ba6da4446711d189420000e829fbbd/content.htm
Regards,
Saju.S -
Good morning,
does anyboby know if and how is possible planning costs on sales orders?
Currently, sales orders are set as account assignment; actual costs are accounted without problems on sales orders and report KKBC_KUN properly shows costs. But no plan data.
Furthermore, we execute cost estimate on sales orders through CK51N.
Please tell me something more if you know.
Thanks,
Regards
EnricoDear Enrico,
check the documentation at
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/90/ba81d2446711d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
br, Guido -
Product costing by sales order configuration steps
hi
plz send me product costing by sales order configuration steps.
sir, i know manufacturing order configuration step but i do not sales order configuration.
in the sales order also is same as manufacturing order like first we have to make planning cost , the planning cost should be updated to material master and next configure the actual cost.
for first step- costing variant -okkn
next -costing variant -opl1
for sales order also same we need to update planning price first- what is costing variant
for actual cost - what is costing variant
plz tell me detail
regards,
sowmya
Moderator: Please, read forum rules before postingHi Sashikanth,
Please send me the Configuration document for make to sales order.We are at Blue print stage need some docment for make to sales order.Plese send me the document it will will be very help full for me.
My id is [email protected]
Thanks in advance
Regards,
Nagaraju
Edited by: nagaraju sami on Mar 9, 2008 11:58 AM
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