Cost of Sales BOM

Hi SD Gurus,
Need to know how to calculate the cost of the sales BOM that I have created. When I create a sales order for the sales BOM, it explode all the components in the sales BOM. All of them have condition type VPRS which state the cost of the component but the actual FGD sales BOM does not have VPRS condition type in them. The item category for the sales BOM is customised as ZTAI, Banded without pricing.
I tried looking at the header and there is a VPRS conditon but it is for the whole order. The order may or may not include other sales order item that is a Sales BOM.
Am i missing something here. Pls help and points will be awarded. Thanks

Hi all SD Gurus,
Thank you very much for the fast response.
I think my SD config person did not check the "determine cost" in VOV7 for that item category. Will ask him to do so but am interested in the below suggestion also.
at parent level, in which case all the sub-items pricing components are collated (totaled) into the parent item.
Dear Kookie,
Can you advise how to perform the above also from a cost perspective, i.e. adding all the VPRS found in the sub items and adding them to the main item

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Dear Gurus
Standard Sales Order BOM supports either Pricing Inventory control, Delivery at Header level (Item category group ERLA) or All these at Component level ( Item category group LUMF).
I have a scenario where in Header is Intangible and Relevent for Pricing only. However Down the level parts are relevent for Delivery and Inventory control.
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Neeraj Srivastava
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Go to VTFL --- > Select the document type --> Go to item level and tick the cumulate the cost.
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I Feel Your are asking about Sale order costing and Std cost estimate using production BOM
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We have a 3rd Party Dropshipment scenario with Sales BOM with susequent Debit
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Sales BOM is created
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Edited by: NEERAJ BHARDWAJ on Dec 2, 2011 5:12 AM

Hi Raj,
Please clarified your requirement here, you mention that you wanted to valuated COGS at actual cost of PO? That sound more like actual costing here and what is the reason for this requirement?
Is this MTO with variant configuration?
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Price Control S
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Use of Sales BOM to force ATP against Bulk Material?

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Material Determination (MD) works with Consignment orders, only you need to assign a MD procedure to the requisite sales document type in config ( TO code OV14). Product substitution, which is a specialized form of MD, makes use of special item cats like TAX and TAPS or TAPA and TAN for main and substitute items respectively, but you can always make copies of them and use them with consignment orders also in conjunction with item category usages like PSHP. PSEL, PSA1 and PSA2. There could be resultant issues, but unless you test you won't know them all.
Your second question about 'Sale would go against the finished good (Truck / Rail material) while the production costs go against the Bulk', brought a new realization in me. You are ordering, pricing and delivering Truck or Rail materials, but those requirements have to be converted to Production orders for bulk material, so from a Sales and Distribution (SD) point of view you don't need anything extra, therefore work with you Production Planning (PP) consultant to convert the requirements at PP end?? May be without resorting to MD or BOMs in Sales, you can work with your PP consultant and with standard config or custom development, you may realize your desired outcome.
Also as long as cost is maintained in the sales Material (Truck for example) with due regard to the additional costs in converting Bulk to truck, you should be fine. Follow the example below:
Standard cost of 1 ton , say X, is stored in Bulk Material master.
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Your problem is not insurmountable, but you need to assemble a team of SD. PP, MM and CO experts to design an integrated solution for you.

Sales bom - parent item

when i create a sales bom, all the components display as independent items on the picklist. why? and it also does not display the parent item. the picker needs to see this information! how can i make that show up on the picklist? any ideas?

Hi Gordon,
I appreciate your mature reply to my critical posting.
Do you know what the Sales BOM is supposed to be used for? I am not sure how in any possible context can the below make sense:
1. Currently B1 will deliver components only of a Sales BOM at zero cost
2. Given sales orders can "expire" (in the sense they can have a cut-off date - typically 30 days by default I think), surely if one doesn't receive the remaining components in time, this would lead to a very awkward situation! What if the remaining component(s) is/are non-purchased item(s)?
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Will it be possible to include WBS planned cost in Sales order cost estimate.
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