Cost of Sales & Period Account.......

Hi SAP guru's,
- What is the diff. between Cost of Sales Accounting and Period Accounting approach?
- What is reconciliation ledger? what is diff between Reconciliation ledger and Special purpose ledger?
sure we will assign good points
thanks
VK

If you right click on an Invoice and choose "Gross Profit" it will give you a setting on how you want to calculate the Gross Profit for that invoice.
In the accounting point of view the "Base Price" should be "Item Cost" so that the Gross Profit will be (Net Selling Price - Item Cost = Gross Profit). This will give you the same Gross Profit amount between P and L and Sales Analysis Report.
However, SAP B1 gives the user the ability to select a different base price other than the Item Cost.
This gives the user the flexibility for the Sales Report. Example (Net Sales Price - Vendor Sales Price = Gross Profit). People do this sometimes because the item's cost fluctuates if you use FIFO or average cost and they want a uniform cost to calculate their Gross Profit.
In summary if the Base Price is not set to "Item Cost" then there will be difference in the Gross Profit between the P and L and Sales Analysis Report.
See screenshot:
-Eric Alo-
B1 Financial Consultant

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Do check out the following documentation :
http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/600/html/N74_EN_GCC.htm
Cost of Sales Accounting
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005vp/helpdata/en/b3/c3e040852f712ae10000000a155106/content.htm
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In the accounting point of view the "Base Price" should be "Item Cost" so that the Gross Profit will be (Net Selling Price - Item Cost = Gross Profit). This will give you the same Gross Profit amount between P and L and Sales Analysis Report.
However, SAP B1 gives the user the ability to select a different base price other than the Item Cost.
This gives the user the flexibility for the Sales Report. Example (Net Sales Price - Vendor Sales Price = Gross Profit). People do this sometimes because the item's cost fluctuates if you use FIFO or average cost and they want a uniform cost to calculate their Gross Profit.
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See screenshot:
-Eric Alo-
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I added the filed FKBER in table VWTYGB01.
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Effects on Customizing
You can define when this system message is to be issued in accordance with your requirements.
You do this in Customizing as follows: Controlling -> Controlling: General -> Change Message Control.
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Once Cost of Sales Accounting is active the Ledger 0F will be updated
for all costs posted with functional area.
When you deactivate "Cost of Sale Accounting", this Ledger will still be
updated but without functional area.
To prevent this data inconsistency, the message is set as "Error Message",
that is why you receive this error, and why it recommends that you
change the message to a warning message instead of an error.
Please check your settings in GCL2 to deactivate 0F.
It is recommended that you then set this message back to 'Error' after
deactivation to prevent any other ledger being deactivated by
accident.
Regards
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