Cost splitting and Actual price calculation

Dear all,
What is the difference between cost splitting and actual price calculation?
Thanks & Regards,
Ar

Hi,
KSS2 (splitting) is fixed cost splitting based on defined splitting rules. Fix cost splitting means, although the cost are activity unindependent (=FIX) they are splitted to each actual activity unit,... (based on the splitting rule you use)
This is/can be a prerequisite for calculating actual activity rates, which is done by KSII (actual price calculation).
best regards, Christian

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Actual Price Calculation (KSII)

hi,
I am not able to get the actual prices for my production order.
I maintained certain settings for actual price calculation in OKEQ.
Does it is mandatory to run the MFN1 (Revaluation of actual prices) before the KSII.
Srinivas

Hi Sateesh,
Please find below the process for calculation of Actual Activity Prices:
1. Define Splitting structure, rules (method). I am sure you would have done this
2. Assign the splitting structure to Cost Centers. I hope you would be done this as well
3. Actual values (Costs and quantitative details) will get collected to cost centers in the following way:
- Quantities will get collected to Cost Centers once the confirmation of activities are done for the production order. Please make sure that "Record Quantity" check box is selected for the relevant secondary cost elements.
- Values will get collected from FI to the primary cost elements
you may check whether the values have been properly collected to the cost center using the cost center reports
4. Execute cost Split using - KSS2
5. Then calculate Actual activity unit price - KSII
6. Once the prices are successfully calculated, you can check the prices in KP26
7. after this process is completed then you can revaluate you production orders using the actual activity prices
I hope i made is clear.
Let me know if you need further details in this regard
Surya

Authorization control for actual price calculation

Dear all,
I found that there is no authorization control for actual price calculation(KSII), this means user can calculate actual price for all cost centers, even this cost center belongs to other company. Is there a way to control this?
Thanks,
Ben

Hi Ben,
By SAP standard we do not have the control. we also have the same situation. We are venturing in to Realisation phase and we decided to have some kind of program (development) to control this.
Please let me know if you find some better solution
Best Regards
Surya

Actual price calculation

Hi Experts,
We have this scenario:
1. Activity prices are entered manually in KP26.(Activity type indicator=5)
2. At the time of CO11N only POWER activity will confirm.
3. Executing CPTA for overhead allocation.
4. KSS2 for power activity
5. No splitting for other cost elements
6. KSII Actual price calculation
7. MFN1 Revaluation of order
After revaluatin of order when i am checking actul cost for activities only power cost is coming.
Please find the enclosed print screens for same above process.
Please guide me how to get the actual price calculation for other activities.
KP26 :
KSS2:
KSII:
CO03:
Regards,
Vivaan

Hi Rajneesh,
Yes Splitting rule is Activity only.
Ex.
1.Order Quantity = 1000
2. I confirmed yeild 500 Qty & power activity 200 in CO11N.
3. Now when i execute CPTA for that order its calculating like below.
4. KSS2:
KSII:
Now actual price is coming same for other activities except power.
If i maintain no split structure that time in KSII only power actual price coming as print screens posted in original query posted.
Please advise me on Actuall price calculation as per our business scenario.
Regards,
Vivaan
Now my client is asking is as below
Cost center report xxxxxx
Water GL cost = 60000
Water Qautnity=1000(This is PO Total order quantity)
Water actual price=60000/1000 =60
Confirmed Quantity= 500
Actual price calculation for water = 500*60=30000
same for other activities also.
Please advise.
Regards,
Vivaan

Actual Price Calculation Issues

Hi,
I need explanation on how the system calculates actual prices in KSII.
In my cases i maintained Rs 1.00 as variable price for my activity type and cost center combination in KP26. My planned activity is 1000 Mins and actual activity is 3600. in KSII system is showing 2129.64 as actual price calculation. how the system is calculation as 2129.64. If i see cost center report it is showing that over absorption as -2600.
Please guide me on the actual price calculation.

HI,
KSII - Actual Cost/Actual Qty.
Please check what is your actual cost and Actual qty. in your cost center report and check. Planned qty. or Planned cost is not taken for consideration during KSII.
Bye,
Ramesh

Actual price calculation configuration

Dear experts,
What are the configuration settings required for actual price calculation in product costing?
Regards
Jay

Hi,
please find below the list of activities that need to be done to calculate the actual price calculation:
Config requirements:
1. You have defined the splitting structures
2. You have assigned Splitting structure to Cost Centers
End user side:
1. KSS2 - Execute Actual cost splitting
2. KSII - Calculate Actual activity price
Please let me know if you need futher details in this regard
Surya

Actual price calculation - acutal price indicator KSII

Hi Friends
I am trying to calculate actual price (KSII) and am getting the following message.
All activity prices are manually entered
Message no. KP211
Diagnosis
All activity prices in controlling area 1000, fiscal year 2009, and version 0 were determined and set as manually entered prices.
In actual price calculation, all plan activity prices, meaning those calculated automatically (activity price indicator 1 and 2) and those set manually (activity price indicator 3), are treated as if they have been set manually.
System Response
The SAP System cannot calculate activity prices automatically.
Processing is cancelled.
Procedure
Check your activity type planning. To calculate the activity price automatically, you must set the activity price indicator accordingly.
Pl suggest what the actual price indicator should be in activity master data
I am putting 5 there (after some actual data is posted) but it is not working. it is still giveing the above error and not calculating the actual price.
Pl suggest the way out.
Regards,

Hi,
In activity type creation check whether you maintained activity category as "1" and actual price indicator as"5"
Regards,
Sreekanth

KSII (Actual Price Calculation)

Gurus
When I execute the said KSII; result for activity prices is as follows:
ACTIVITY TYPE 1 = ACTUAL COST/ACTUAL HRS = RESULT OK
ACTIVITY TYPE 2 = ACTUAL COST/ACTUAL HRS = RESULT OK
ACTIVITY TYPE 3 = RESULT WRONG
ACTIVITY TYPE 4 = NO RESULT
Same rule is assigned to all activity types in Cost Splitting Structure.
Actual activity quantity is also posted for each activity, I am confused why not system's behaviour is same for all activity types price calculation.
Thanks
bukhari

Hi,
Just check if you have done the Cost Element planning for the correct Cost Element & Cost Centre combination as defined in the Splitting structure and further the Splitting rule is based on the Activity quantity.(KP26)
Also ensure that you have planned for the Activity quantity for the same cost centres for which you have planned the costs. (KP06)
Award points if useful.
Regards,

Wrong actual price calculation

Dear Sap Experts
I'm running KSS2 to split costs into cost centers and getting a value of $ 12.461,66.
Volume of activities is 83,94, according S_ALR_87013611 and KSII.
Thing is that actual activity price given by the system is $ 151,56 and not $ 148,46 instead.
Some idea you could provide in order to investigate it?
Tks a lot, cheers
Patricia

Hi Sateesh,
Pls go through the following example to understand Plan Activity Price and Actual Activity Price:
For Cost Center A, you do Cost Element Planning in KP06 (Ex. Rs.1,00,000). In KP26, you do the planned Activity Quantity (100 Hrs) - you will not update any price in KP26 screen usually . Now, to calculate the Planned Activity Price, you use the transaction code KSPI. The gives the result of Planned Activity Price of Rs.1000 per Hr.
Now, when you confirm the activities in Production Order in CO11n, the activity cost on the Production Order is updated with the Planned Price of Rs.1000. So, by the end of the period, if total actual hrs confirmed is 60 Hrs. ie., total cost loaded onto Production Orders is Rs.60,000.
Now, think of the actual cost that is booked to the Cost Center A (either through FI postings or distribution / assessment from other cost centers). If the actual cost that was posted to that cost center is only Rs.84,000. (Where as Planned Cost was Rs.1,00,000).
Now, when you run KSII transaction code for actual activity price calculation, the system will calculate the actual activity price by 84,000 / 60 Hrs =1,333.33.
This is the way how the system clearly shows and takes care of Under-Absorption / Over-Absorption in cost centers.
Then you run the transaction code MFN1 / CON2 to revaluate your Production Orders with the Actual Price of Activity.
After alll these steps only, you need to settle the Production Orders.
If you settle Production Orders before revaluating with Actual Activity Price, then again there will be some loaded on to Production Orders, so, you have to do the settlement again.
Hope my explanation is clear...
cheers....
SRIKANTH MUNNALURI

CALCULATION OF ACTUAL PRICE CALCULATION - KSII

Dear Friends,
We are using Make to Order scenario and NOT USING Sales order based costing, I would like to calculate Automatic activity price calculation and revaluate my production order with actual prices (MFN1), for this I need to create & assign splitting rules to cost centers & follow the t.codes KSS2, KSII, KBK7 (DISPLAY) and finally MFN1.
For Calculation of KSS2, how Plan Quantity has to be decided, this because for calculating Operating rate system take the formula as below, whether the below formula is correct?
Actual quantity/ Planned quantity * variable price
If for a cost center, postings are happened in FI for 10000/- then how system calculate & segregate this?
if possible with an small example, when checked in KSS2 it shows the amount of postings from FI with cost elements.
But when we checked t.code KSII it was showing the some different Actual Activity and variable price. How system takes the Actual activity and Variable Price and is there any report to check this?
please guide me
Regards,
Sandeep
Edited by: sandeep jain jain on Nov 2, 2009 4:15 PM

Hi Paolo,
You were exactly right that it was rounding off.
But still am not able to get the calculation working for me.
In Cost Center Report Actual/ Plan it shows
Debit Assessment Cost Element 10000
Credit Machine Hour 458.16-
Credit labour Hour 124.96-
over/under Absorption 9,416.88
This are all actual cost.
When i run KSII the result is as below
Oty Object                        Name                    AUn              Activity Qty Total Price     Price(Fixed) PUnit
ATY MBX273/L1                Testing CCTR         H                 1.666         3,001.20         3,001.20      1
ATY MBX273/M1                Testing CCTR         H                 1.666         3,001.20         3,001.20      1
I am not getting how this value 3,001.20 is calculating.
Kindly help me to under stand this
Edited by: lolu jo on Oct 28, 2011 3:57 PM

Actual price calculation for multiple activity types

Gurus,
I am working on a scenario where we have 2 main cost centers (A & B) from which services are used in different cost centers one of which is C. C is assigned to a work center. Now for the cost center C,two activity types are defined ATA and ATB which are actually the services from cost center A and B respectively.
Now for standard cost estimate I can define planned rates for those two activities based on the cost center C. Now at the month end I want to draw the costs from A and B based on the % of the services drawn by C and then calculate the actual price for those activities, i.e. run revaluation cycle. My question is, when I would run the revaluation cycle, how am I going to differentiate the cost of each activity types based on the cost input from respective cost centers (A and B) ?
I short, with more than one activity type and more than one input cost center, is it possible to valuate the activities on actual prices?
Thanks in advance!
Snigdho

Hi Snigdho
Yes, you can!!
If I have understood your question well - What you want is that the Cost allocated to From A to C should be divided by Act type ATA and cost allocated from B to C, should be divided by ATB, at the period end... Is that what you want?
You can achieve this in SAP...
1. Create 2 separate secondary cost elements for each Act Type ATA and ATB
2. Create a Spliting structure in OKES... You would assign Secondary cost ele 1 to ATA and Sec Cost ele 2 to ATB
Assign cost center C to this splitting structure in OKEW
3. now, when you calculate Act price, you will get what you want
Regards
Ajay M

Activity Costs Revaluation Using Actual Price

Hi,
Since we can revaluate the activity costs at actual price in the product costing module itself using t.code MFN1, why SAP has provided another option to revaluate acticvity consumption at actual price in the material ledger multi level price determination?
What is the difference between the both? If i had used MFN1, do i still have to use the revaluation of activity costs provided in the material ledger?

Hi,
However don't you think if the production order activity cost has been revaluated at actuals in the production order then during settlement it will carry the activity actual costs which will be shown in material ledger receipts category with the same actuals value for the activity costs.
So why should i be revaluating the activity costs again with actual activity price in material ledger once again? It sounds like a duplicate work to me under this scenario....

Estimated price and Actual price for purchased Materials

Hi Experts
Please advice for the below scenario:
We don't know the Exact price of a Material (Externally purchased) while raising the PO, so we enter an Estimated price in PO and send it to vendor.
While doing GR, We should identify the Material which was entered estimated price by some warning or information message.
Then we will go and edit the PO with Actual price, after that GR will be done.
Any idea how to achieve this requirement?
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Bala

There are no facilities in SAP at all as per your requirement.
You can only achieve this via development. You have to use something different for those material in PO. And at the time of MIGO, the enhancement (by using any exit or badi) will check the field or field value in PO and system will show the warning / information at the time of GR.
You may also create new field in PO/EKPO.
Suppose for those material you have entered the value X and blank for the normal material.
Then system will check the field at the time of goods receipt. If system will find the value X, then system will show the information / warning message.
If system finds the blank value for the field, then system will not show the message.

KSII, Can FI postings flow into Controlling actual cost splitting.

Can FI postings flow into Controlling actual cost splitting and actual price calculation. I am trying post FI documents(FB50,FB60,FB01) with cost elements, activity type, quantity and cost center combination. I am able to post a document and then I do all the KSS2, in KSII is not able to show me that posting. I need to know, is it possible to move from FI to CO in tcode KSII , if yes let me know i am missing something. and i am getting an error message
Message no. KP250
Diagnosis
The plan or actual activity for cost center , activity type is 0. However, costs were planned or posted in period(s) 2.

Hi,
As you know, the system splits all activity-independent costs to the activities according to the following three step logic:
-split based on target costs
-if not possible split by splitting structure
-in the last step if the above two were not possible split by equivalence numbers set in transaction KP26
In your case, if there is no actual quantity for the cost center, then the system will split by equivalence number. Therefore please make sure, that the cost center has actual quantity.
Further information is also provided in note 772794.
regards
Waman

CO PC - Cost Split / Price Calculation

Hi.
When i do the Actual Price Calculation of my activites, i have a problem:
We post to the Cost Center, some "cost elements" that are not included in any "Spliting structure" tcode OKES.
When we do the Actual Price calculation, this cost elements are considered in the calculation of the price of my activities. Exist any customizing to avoid this.
This is an example:
Cost Elements: CE01, CE02, CE03.
Activity ACT001
CE01 and CE02 are asigned to a Split Sturcture with ACT001, but CE03 is "free".
In my cost center, we "DEBIT" :
CE01 --- 100 usd
CE02 --- 100 usd
CE03 --- 100 usd
and we post 50 hours to the cost center.
In actual price calculation, the hour must cost (100 + 100) / 50 = 4... but the system calc ( 100 + 100 + 100) / 50 = 6 usd / hr

The problem was the Weight in the rule, ans the equivalente number in tcode KP26...

Cost splitting and Actual price calculation

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