Costing based CO-PA extraction to DSO

Hello Expert,
I need to load the line item data to level 1 DSO. On the source system, the system has used the combination of the following key fields not allow duplicate records.
PALEDGER
VRGAR
VERSI
PERIO
PAOBJNR
PASUBNR
BELNR
POSNR
But, the datasource only includes the following fields from the source system.
PALEDGER
VRGAR
VERSI
PERIO
BELNR
POSNR
How the system is going to handle duplicate records in absence of these two fields (PAOBJNR
PASUBNR) in the datastore object (DSO) which are part of the key fields in the source system?
Please let me know about it.
Thanks.
Bhai.

Hi,
For Costing based CO-PA Extraction : Pls follow this steps.
1.Create a CO_PA Data Source in KEB0 (Costing Based) and test this extractor in RSA3.
2. On BW side , Create CO_PA cube using the info source (to which generated CO_PA data source assigned in BW) as a template,and move the chars, KF and time chars and assign the dimensions as required.
I suggest make the copy of any below existing COPA cube and then you add/ delete missing fields.
CO-PA: Published Key Figures
CO-PA: Quickstart (S_GO)
CO-PA: Route Profitability (S_AL)
Pls Check this link for Costing based CO-PA
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/b0/06644ca87011d1b5750000e82de856/content.htm
Hope this helps,
Regards
CSM Reddy

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제품 : ORACLE SERVER
작성날짜 : 2004-05-28
SQL 문장이 RULE에서 COST-BASED로 전환되는 경우
==============================================
PURPOSE
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