Costing Variant & Prod Cost Collector

I am in the scenario of period costing with a product collector. Please guide me on the following:
While configuring for costing/valuation variant, I find that we create a costing / valuation variant under 'Material cost estimate with Qty structure' and also under Cost object controlling - Product Cost Collector, 'Check costing variant for Product Cost Collector' & 'Check valuation variant for Product Cost collector'.
Do need to configure a costing variant and valuation variant under these paths, viz. under Standard Cost estimate with Qty Structure & also Product Cost collector ?
Please give your comments ASAP

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A product cost collector is a cost object in Product Cost by Period that collects the periodic actual costs incurred in the production of a material. It can be created in txn KKF6N.
[Product Cosr Collector|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/EN/08/77ba810a1611d3a6b900104b55d538/frameset.htm]
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Can anyone tell me what is exactly product cost collectors and what is the impact on the production orders and cost?
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Following link will be useful:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/5f/1faba54aee11d189740000e8322d00/frameset.htm
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we use for some production order types the product cost collector. Now we plan to abolish them and change the settlement for production order. Which things do we have to pay attention? Do we have to finish our running production orders first or is it possible to change customizing during running production process. Thanks for your hepl!
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